K&N filters: Why manufacturers dont use high flow filters?? - Jeep Compass Forum
 

  Jeep Compass Forum > Jeep Compass: Technical > Aftermarket Accessories & Parts

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-04-2011, 02:14 PM   #1
Member
 
wojeda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Lima, Peru
Posts: 72
wojeda is on a distinguished road
Garage
Unhappy K&N filters: Why manufacturers dont use high flow filters??

I have a concern: Reading lots of information in the internet, regarding K&N filters, high flow kits and other related, it seems that installing a K&N filter is really a ADD to your vehicle performance.... the question is .... If so.... Why manufacturers dont use this kind of filters but use regular paper ones?

__________________
Billy (wojeda)

Jeep Compass 2008, 2.4L VVT, 4x4, CVT II

Door Sill Guards Stainless Steel
wojeda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2011, 03:34 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
giantsnation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 162
giantsnation is on a distinguished road
Garage
Default

First and foremost, is cost. Just look at retail - K&N is $50 and paper is $15.
giantsnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2011, 04:03 PM   #3
Member
 
wojeda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Lima, Peru
Posts: 72
wojeda is on a distinguished road
Garage
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by giantsnation View Post
First and foremost, is cost. Just look at retail - K&N is $50 and paper is $15.
..good point.... but im thinking about chryshler with many brands, and thousands of car of production, that 50$ can be reduced for sure. Also EPA and CAFE will be happy with lower mpg (according what internet says. K&N dont say that).... and $50 i think is not much than a $20,000 car.... McLaren, Bently, Mercedes, BMW dont wear those either..... Ferrary, Aston Martin, Rover? .... im still confused... :s
__________________
Billy (wojeda)

Jeep Compass 2008, 2.4L VVT, 4x4, CVT II

Door Sill Guards Stainless Steel
wojeda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2011, 04:39 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
giantsnation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 162
giantsnation is on a distinguished road
Garage
Default

Obviously the cost will drop dramatically based on the number of production. HOWEVER, think about this scenario. A generic paper filter costs a manufacturer 50cents and the K&N one is $1. That is double the cost. If your making 100,000 units that 50cent increase would equate to $50,000. Is the company (any company really) going to make $50,000 more just because of a K&N filter? Remember this was just on 100,000 units.

Higher end vehicles, while not K&N do have higher quality filters (some paper and some even use foam). More specifically, Mercedes for example will higher a company to build an air filter to their exact air flow specifications. Cheaper cars such as Chrysler's bid out air filters to whomever is cheapest. The filter is made to fit the application (sizing) with no regard for air flow specs. In other words, the Walmart fram filters are all same with regards to air flow and paper element. Sizing is obviously the differentiating factor.

At the end of the day, its a lot of hocus pocus on a $20K car. In reality it will add 1HP (maybe) and max 2mpg. Not a huge bump in performance. I buy these for the convenience of never having to buying another filter.

Sorry for running on! Hope this helps.
giantsnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2011, 06:42 PM   #5
Member
 
wojeda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Lima, Peru
Posts: 72
wojeda is on a distinguished road
Garage
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by giantsnation View Post
Obviously the cost will drop dramatically based on the number of production. .......................... I buy these for the convenience of never having to buying another filter.

Sorry for running on! Hope this helps.
Thanks very much, very accurate analisys.
At the end it seems that extend your maintenance and the best appereance (sound also) seems to be the main reason to install a k&n filter with a fancy stainles steel (with mopar logo) pipe underneath your hood.

Thanks again,

__________________
Billy (wojeda)

Jeep Compass 2008, 2.4L VVT, 4x4, CVT II

Door Sill Guards Stainless Steel
wojeda is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0