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post #1 of 22 Old 09-01-2017, 03:10 AM Thread Starter
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Potential New Owner With Questions

Good Evening,

Thanks for letting me join the Forum. I currently have a 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk 3.2L that I ordered in 2014. I'm just over 66,000 miles and the list of parts replaced under warranty is quite long. I'm considering trading it in on a new Compass.

- Latitude
- 6spd manual
- Popular Equip Group
- Cold Weather Group
- Trailer Tow Group
- Beats Audio

Here are my couple of questions because what I'm looking for is hard to find on any lot.
1. How are the stock headlights at night?
2. Has anyone here driven the 6spd manual? Not a YouTube video I can find about it.
3. How is the new 7" radio?

I kindly thank you in advance for any help you can provide.

- From EC Wisconsin.
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Welcome aboard,
I can help with 1 & 2. My Compass is Sport trim with uconnect 5.0.
1. Standard Halogens, I'd grade like this: Low beam-B+, High beam-A+. The high beams are very bright and WIDE. I think HID's are available in Latitude trim.
2. The transmission is crazy smooth. I love it. It seems to actually "pull" itself into gear for you. The engine has enough low-end that it's pretty hard to stall out. And starting on hills isn't a problem with the hill assist. If you drive in mountains, you'll find that 6th is a little too tall, and you'll spend most of your time in 4th and 5th.
Hope that helps!
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Double post, combined info below. I guess it took a couple of days for my first post be moderated.

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I ordered a Latitude in a stick, and test drove the Sport version prior to that. As it was only a test drive, I can't tell you as much as the other poster, but it was a nice fun drive!

We also have a Trailhawk we bought off the lot in July, fully loaded. Can't tell you how the cold weather package is working out for us since it's not winter yet, but I decided the heated steering wheel would be worth the extra, so I ordered that.

And we have Beats - and I LOVE it. I ordered that in my Latitude too. Honestly, if it wasn't for the stereo, I would probably have just stayed in my 2015 Accord. BUT - this way I am finally going to be able to get a car that I want, rather than take what the dealer happens to have in a stick.
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Thank you @ghiser30 and @cygnusjen for the insight. I really appreciate it.

My 2015 KL Trailhawk really, really wants to be traded in. I'm between two different Jeeps. I KNOW they are very different vehicles. One is a JK Rubicon 6spd and the other is a Compass Latitude 4x4 6spd. Today the gf and I drove 75 miles south to Milwaukee to test drive the Rubicon and a FWD version of the Compass 6spd.

First was the Rubicon. The clutch feels nice and the shifter throw is not bad. But, what I noticed is that the OEM Mud Terrain tires hate pavement. I was really working to keep it true between the lanes. Did I just drive one with an issue, or is it really always like that? We test drove a 6spd Sport a few months ago and although not an Audi, it did drive a lot better.

The Compass with that 6spd really wakes up that 2.4L. Wow what a difference than with the 9spd auto. That is more of a driver's vehicle and I did enjoy it. The engine likes to rev and the clutch feels really positive. Lots of footwell room and the dead pedal is right where it should be. Driving position was great. The weight of the shifter feels almost perfect, except for 5th as that feels a bit far.

The dealer found me a Mineral Gray one over in MN and it has everything I want plus a safety & security group. I can live with the extra $795. They are saying they can take $1,000 off MSRP.

One more question I have is about my trailer. 900 lbs empty. Tongue weight empty is about 100 lbs. With the factory tow package, do you think it will be too much for the Compass? I did hook it up to my gf's 2.4L Cherokee Sport tonight and run it around town. The Jeep pulled it just fine, power wise.

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Empty tongue weight is 160 lbs. Loaded with over 900 lbs of gear balanced out, I capped out at 210 lbs. Given that I normally only put about 600 lbs of stuff in, I'm satisfied.
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I ordered the latitude with all the options you listed except beats, and I also got it 4x4. I just received it this week and really like the new ride. I hadn't been able to test drive a stick prior to ordering, but it definately feels much more responsive than the 9sp auto. Great 1st gear ratio to get a jump from a stop and the mileage is good in both 5th and 6th. Drove it a couple hundred hilly miles through the adirondacks this weekend which is 5th and 6th gear cruising with holiday traffic and still got around 33mpg according to the trip estimate.
I also really like the android auto/CarPlay on the 7" screen. Having google maps will be nice as the car ages.
One thing I did notice as I was browsing the user manual, is that they recommend that you only tow with the 9sp auto. I don't plan to tow but wanted a real spare tire and wasn't going to pay almost $300 just for a donut. Plus it will be nice if I want a hitch mounted bike/cargo rack so I went with the tow package
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Welcome to the forum. I am in the EC area a couple times a week. I have a new Compass Trailhawk. 10,000 mile on it now.
I also have a 2012 JKU Wrangler. I enjoy them both. The wife will never give up her JKU Wrangler.
Can tell you with my Trail-hawk I am getting 28-32 MPG Hwy. It will never go into 9th gear unless you hit about 85-90. Trailhawks have different gearing and sit up taller than the other models, so you can expect better fuel mileage with the other models. It pulls my 5x10 enclosed trailer with a 1000 lb. motorcycle in it okay. Off road this little buggy will hold it's own very well.
With a better off-road tire it would be a little beast.
I am looking forward to putting on some snow tires this fall and see how well it handles the Wisconsin winter.
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I ordered the latitude with all the options you listed except beats, and I also got it 4x4. I just received it this week and really like the new ride. I hadn't been able to test drive a stick prior to ordering, but it definately feels much more responsive than the 9sp auto. Great 1st gear ratio to get a jump from a stop and the mileage is good in both 5th and 6th. Drove it a couple hundred hilly miles through the adirondacks this weekend which is 5th and 6th gear cruising with holiday traffic and still got around 33mpg according to the trip estimate.
I also really like the android auto/CarPlay on the 7" screen. Having google maps will be nice as the car ages.
One thing I did notice as I was browsing the user manual, is that they recommend that you only tow with the 9sp auto. I don't plan to tow but wanted a real spare tire and wasn't going to pay almost $300 just for a donut. Plus it will be nice if I want a hitch mounted bike/cargo rack so I went with the tow package
I did purchase a spare. It's a full-sized wheel/tire, not a donut.
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Ahh, that would explain the price. I'll have to inform the sales staff I worked with.
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I ordered mine Latitude with a spare, instead of the tow package. The Trailhawk we bought came with the tow package and a full sized spare... but the Latitude we could only get a spare, or the tow, not both. Which is fine. I don't ever see us needing to tow TWO things at the same time!
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A dealer found me one. It is going to be trailered to the dealer by me. I should have it either Saturday or early next week. $500 already down on it. It has everything I wanted, plus a safety group. I can live with that. Granite color.
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A dealer found me one. It is going to be trailered to the dealer by me. I should have it either Saturday or early next week. $500 already down on it. It has everything I wanted, plus a safety group. I can live with that. Granite color.
Nice, glad to hear that you will be getting one soon. Just make sure before you take delivery that it has no damage from being in transport since that can happen from time to time. Plus I don't know the level of protection they have on these new Compass'
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Good for you!! Saturday can't get here soon enough, huh?
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Too bad it didn't arrive in time for labor day weekend because that would have been a great week to break it in. Lots of the really passionate owners I know (of any new car) often do that. Good routine to keep up since you can get to the issues sooner if any.

Looking forward to delivery day!
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Good morning. Here are my initial impressions of the 2017 Jeep Compass Latitude 4x4 6pd manual. I took delivery with 14 miles on it. On the 80 mile drive home, I averaged 35 MPG doing the speed limits. 6th gear is a true overdrive gear. Anything below 63ish MPH and it is lugging. Comparing the ride to the trade, the 2015 Trailhawk 3.2L, I'd say the ride is not as refined. I feel more bumps and road seams in the seat and the wheel than in the Cherokee. It could be the smaller tires as I ran factory 17" rims (same as the Compass), but had larger Load Range E Goodyear tires on it with more than twice the sidewall. The steering is lighter than the Cherokee, so you do steer it at 70 a little more. Not a bad thing, just lighter. Seats are comfortable and the power driver seat has a HUGE range of adjustment. The steering wheel tilt and telescope also has a huge range. It is easy to get comfortable that way. My right leg is riding on the center hump, but it also did that in my VW Jetta TDI 6spd. The factory spare is a steel rim with a matching Firestone Destination LE2 temp tire, as marked with the big "O" on the sidewall. But, at least it is matching and not a gumband. I threw my old Weathertech cargo mat for a try in the Compass. It is only about 1"-2" smaller on two sides. If I wanted to loose the lips from the mat, it would fit perfect. The rear seat is not as comfortable compared to the Cherokee, but only our two small dogs ride back there...and their opinion does not matter.

Two things that are a HUGE improvement over the Cherokee, okay well three things. First is mileage. 80 miles, brand new, on under 1/8 of a tank. Winning! Second, I get to shift and the gears row very smooth. Third, is the lighting. Reverse lights are actually useful. Rear camera is great in daylight and at night. Headlights do not shine down super far, but they are 100% better than the KL. Fog lights could be brighter, but their spread and match with the headlights is spot on. Brights / high beams, WOW. I won't say they are magical, but I threw them across 200 yards of field at my apartment building and lit the whole thing up. I could not do that, at all, in the Cherokee. Magical for all sorts of reasons. The headlights will stay, but I might improve the fogs if an option comes to market.

Blindspot monitoring is new for me, and it worked well on I-43 yesterday. Backup beepers combined with the camera work very well. The Beats speakers are worth the $700. Not a Bose home system, but I'd say its better than my Cherokee's Alpine factory system. The 7" Uconnect works well and is responsive. It is more vertical than the Cherokee, so it is a bit different viewing angle...like they designed it for the rear passengers...but I found it easy to adjust settings and change channels.

Overall, yesterday was a win. Cherokee loan paid off via trade...no neg equity. $3,000 off MSRP on the Compass. Mopar Lifetime warranty with $100 deductible at cost. Total loan came in UNDER what MSRP plus taxes would have been. A big plug for Griffin's Hub in Milwaukee.

Funny edit reason...the Auto Start-Stop sticker on the window...FCA did not get their own memo because mine does NOT have that...the button is a dummy place holder. False advertising?
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@ghiser30, what are your thoughts compared to mine?
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Not available with manual transmission.
Glad to hear you like it. I wish they offered the 6 speed in other models would love to have a 6 speed manual with a low range option on my Trailhawk.
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Not available with manual transmission.
Glad to hear you like it. I wish they offered the 6 speed in other models would love to have a 6 speed manual with a low range option on my Trailhawk.
In Active Drive 1 (AD1) models such as the Compass and Renegade, all Low does is lock the transaxle into first gear. There is not a two speed power transfer unit (PTU) like in Active Drive II (ADII) as found on the Cherokee. They also omitted a rear locker in the rear drive module (RDM) on AD1, unlike on ADII Lock.

If you look at my pictures, you'll see there is no Sport Mode. That is because Sport is only a computer change for the shift patterns and ESS.

I'll be ordering the front skid plate for my Latitude later this month for some protection.
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Congrats! Awesome ride you got there! Good analysis, I think earlier I gave you a headlight grade with the high beams getting a A+. My Sport has the Auto stop button, too. Not sure how you could make that work w/a manual 😉
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In Active Drive 1 (AD1) models such as the Compass and Renegade, all Low does is lock the transaxle into first gear. There is not a two speed power transfer unit (PTU) like in Active Drive II (ADII) as found on the Cherokee. They also omitted a rear locker in the rear drive module (RDM) on AD1, unlike on ADII Lock.

If you look at my pictures, you'll see there is no Sport Mode. That is because Sport is only a computer change for the shift patterns and ESS.

I'll be ordering the front skid plate for my Latitude later this month for some protection.


I'd be interested in hearing where you're getting the skid plate through and what the install is like.
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Also, wanted to mention. My fuel mileage isn't quite what you're showing. After two months of driving, I'm averaging 24.2. Still not bad. My daily commute is crosses 5 mountains, and about 25 miles. I don't have any back seat passengers, but I'd guess your dogs might be upset with you saying their opinion doesn't matter!! :P
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