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post #91 of 209 Old 02-18-2019, 03:48 PM Thread Starter
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Just wondering where we are with proxy alignment for the 8.4 screens? I know last time I read through the thread and maybe your other one about the screen. That you were able to do everything besides getting it working via proxy alignment, thus not being able to use the screen without fault codes.

Has this finally been fixed? I am ok to get one of the 8.4 screens to swap out my 5"? I do not want to rely on the dealer to do this for me, I doubt they will... relying on the dealer is horrible choice :/

Thanks for your work on this system! PS: is there vids anywhere about this system so I can see how it works and maybe your 1st post you should post links on what you bought to use this system. I understand some certain blue/gray/red(maybe?) might be involved and link to the software would be awesome!

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We'll probably start a new thread with a complete how-to once the developer fixes the trailer tow module and I can confirm everything is working. Maybe by end of march? if you don't have tow package it might be working now, but I can't personally confirm. Link to software and recommend adapter are actually in the first post. cables you need are grey and potentially blue (depending on what adapter you use. not needed for obdlink MX)
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Just wondering where we are with proxy alignment for the 8.4 screens? I know last time I read through the thread and maybe your other one about the screen. That you were able to do everything besides getting it working via proxy alignment, thus not being able to use the screen without fault codes.

Has this finally been fixed? I am ok to get one of the 8.4 screens to swap out my 5"? I do not want to rely on the dealer to do this for me, I doubt they will... relying on the dealer is horrible choice :/

Thanks for your work on this system! PS: is there vids anywhere about this system so I can see how it works and maybe your 1st post you should post links on what you bought to use this system. I understand some certain blue/gray/red(maybe?) might be involved and link to the software would be awesome!

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For the moment you only have an issue if you have the trailer tow module. There seems to be a bug specifically for that module. If you don't, then you are good to go. I have added the color cluster to my compass. And im waiting for a wrecked compass to buy the 8.4 with nav. If anyone is willing to help me on that it will me a please. Not many local Jeep Compass here.
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For the moment you only have an issue if you have the trailer tow module. There seems to be a bug specifically for that module. If you don't, then you are good to go. I have added the color cluster to my compass. And im waiting for a wrecked compass to buy the 8.4 with nav. If anyone is willing to help me on that it will me a please. Not many local Jeep Compass here.
Link or help with full-color cluster! I do not have a tow package(so hope I am good), and how do I know if I need a blue or gray cable?

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I'm getting pretty close to throwing a few dollars at this to try it out. I noticed in the trial they list under "Car configuration change" for the body computer an option called "Stop and Start" and you can set it "Enabled" or "Not Enabled". I am only playing with the app, have not purchased any interface hardware yet. Is this the magical option to permanently disable the ESS system?

I wonder what kinds of issues it could cause to disable it this way. It would, for example, be unfortunate if the secondary battery no longer received a charge as a side effect or something cooky like that.

I am also curious about the several TPMS options floating around in there... Wife and I are back to considering a second set of rims with dedicated snow tires but I don't want to muck with TPMS in the snow tire rims. I also don't want an orange light on the dash all winter. If I can turn TPMS off for the winter or otherwise suppress the error when rims without sensors are installed.... thaa'd be great!

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The OBDlink MX is on sale on Amazon for $57 for the next 4 hours if anyone is interested. I know I am
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Jason pushed me over the edge, its on its way, should arrive on Thursday =D

Amazon lightening deals are limited quantity, after me the deal is listed as "88% claimed" so anybody else interested would need to move fast, the quantity will be up before the four hours run out...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


EDIT: Also thank you Jason for pointing the deal out, hope you get one if you wanted one!

I've been squirreling away Google play store credits for over a year by answering google survey questions, I've got about $34 worth of play store credit towards that $49 app so between that and the $16 Jason just saved me I am going to get into this for a pretty darn good deal!

Guess I better order up the grey adapter from ebay eh?

I had been holding out waiting to see if the app would go on sale at some point, also waiting to hear the issue with the trailer tow module resolved because I have the tow package and don't want to have those issues right out the gate, but it sounds like the developer maybe has that about fixed too so, good time to dive in maybe!

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I will be getting to this soon. I want Adaptive Cruise control, and maybe a few other things turned on.

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I guess its my lucky day, as I was peering at the adapter cables on ebay and weighing the difference between paying X dollars for the one cable I know I need, vs paying Y dollars for a pack with all the different colored cables... I suddenly noticed this "Save $5" banner was following me around as I scrolled the ebay screen. Looked like spam at first, but my curiosity was piqued, so I clicked it and sure enough it was a legit ebay coupon for $5 (or 5%, or something, I don't remember for sure now).

So "why not", I decided for less than $20 more might as well buy the whole six pack of cables so I can be sure I've got every cable I could ever need. I may only need the grey adapter for the Compass, but who knows if some day my buddy wants a scan or something on his 2017 Doge Ram 1500 or whatever, I'd hate to come up short. I am that guy everyone calls for some reason, just because I have this crappy gameboy-like OBDII scan tool that is 5 years old and the screen barely works... So for me its just like the OBDLink MX: I bought that thinking my MAIN use case is for the Compass but very likely I will use it with a different app from time to time to help a friend or family member scan their car too.

BTW, the lightening deal on the OBDLink MX is now lsited at "96% claimed"
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Jason pushed me over the edge, its on its way, should arrive on Thursday =D

Amazon lightening deals are limited quantity, after me the deal is listed as "88% claimed" so anybody else interested would need to move fast, the quantity will be up before the four hours run out...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


EDIT: Also thank you Jason for pointing the deal out, hope you get one if you wanted one!

I've been squirreling away Google play store credits for over a year by answering google survey questions, I've got about $34 worth of play store credit towards that $49 app so between that and the $16 Jason just saved me I am going to get into this for a pretty darn good deal!

Guess I better order up the grey adapter from ebay eh?

I had been holding out waiting to see if the app would go on sale at some point, also waiting to hear the issue with the trailer tow module resolved because I have the tow package and don't want to have those issues right out the gate, but it sounds like the developer maybe has that about fixed too so, good time to dive in maybe!
I got mine right before I posted. Now I'm looking for a lead on the grey cable preferably one that I don't have to get from the UK. Any links?
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Awesome!

Not for the Grey one, I didn't find anything that was non-UK. Amazon has some cables here and there but the listings I saw were not prime shipping and always lacked the darned grey adapter for some reason.

So, mine is coming from the UK. I paid a couple extra bucks for one week faster shipping, says it will be here between the 27th and March 4th.
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Skimming through the AlfaOBD trial app, found something that, if it works, will interest a few people around here




I had found a UI for this setting in the so called "Dealer Menu" of Uconnect but the setting would never stick if I adjusted it at all. I could preview and confirm an improvement but as soon as I left dealer menu reverse camera would be back to full brightness.

This will be interesting to test when all my stuff comes in because 1) I know this is a big gripe with a lot of people, and 2) If AlfaOBD can change it... ... ... AlfaOBD is simply allowing access to some of the same things the dealers have access to ... so if AlfaOBD can change this setting, this means dealerships have always had the ability to help folks who felt strongly about this issue as a safety issue ... had the ability, but refused to help

If THAT turns out to be true, going to be a few angry people around here soon
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Skimming through the AlfaOBD trial app, found something that, if it works, will interest a few people around here [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.myjeepcompass.com/forums/images/smilies/New/eyebrows.gif[/IMG]




I had found a UI for this setting in the so called "Dealer Menu" of Uconnect but the setting would never stick if I adjusted it at all. I could preview and confirm an improvement but as soon as I left dealer menu reverse camera would be back to full brightness.

This will be interesting to test when all my stuff comes in because 1) I know this is a big gripe with a lot of people, and 2) If AlfaOBD can change it... ... ... AlfaOBD is simply allowing access to some of the same things the dealers have access to ... so if AlfaOBD can change this setting, this means dealerships have always had the ability to help folks who felt strongly about this issue as a safety issue ... had the ability, but refused to help [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.myjeepcompass.com/forums/images/smilies/New/think.gif[/IMG]

If THAT turns out to be true, going to be a few <img src="http://www.myjeepcompass.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif" border="0" alt="" title="" class="inlineimg" /> angry people around here soon [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.myjeepcompass.com/forums/images/smilies/New/rules.gif[/IMG]
Dealerships don't have all the acces to settings that alfaOBD provides. As Chrysler determines what they can turn on or change. Or not.
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Awesome to see this thread starting to pick up momentum!

Nice find on the amazon deal. Highly recommend the obdlinkMX adapter. If using this adapter, you don't need the blue cable. But not a bad idea to get a variety pack of cables for a few bucks more as someone pointed out. Other software I used required the blue cable even though I was using the obdlink MX. I bought mine from a UK dealer. Took a while to arrive, but no issues.

per the comment about disabling auto start-stop. I think I read on one of the other forums (maybe Cherokee?) that this didn't work as expected. Would be nice to confirm though.

once we get the app working 100% for everyone starting a thread of all the verified configuration changes would be useful.
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per the comment about disabling auto start-stop. I think I read on one of the other forums (maybe Cherokee?) that this didn't work as expected. Would be nice to confirm though.
Yeah, scrolling through the trial app I found at least two, maybe three or four different places where it looked like you could change or disable the ESS stuff, so hopefully its just a matter of finding the right option.

There is a guy on youtube who has a video showing how to export your entire configuration from AlfaOBD. He made a great point that everyone should export their starting/default settings for everything so that you can look back and have a point of reference to figure out what you've changed if you get into problems. That will be the first thing I do. With a powerful tool like this is going to come some significant risk of screwing things up, a person is definitely going to need to keep close track of what they change and do things slowly and incrementally to not end up with a huge mess and a non-operable vehicle. The dealerships probably won't take much pity on us if we scramble the brains of the various modules, and the provider of the app is not liable either.

Definitely want to participate in the thread (or maybe even its own section?) on pulling together all the useful info on verified changes and options. I think the very first thing should be like that youtube guy's suggestion, start off with a full export of all the stock configuration so you have a way back if you get wild jumping around changing stuff and hose something critical. Also some generic safety information about the risks of changing things and then test driving on the roads in and around other people. For example, if I try to disable ESS, take it for a test drive to find out if the change works, then say the ESS kills the engine when I stop at an intersection and won't restart because of what I did... we all need to avoid that kind of thing, because it will put us and others at risk and its exactly why the auto companies are lobbying for laws against making it possible for us owners to be able to change this kind of stuff.

I'm excited to experiment but it feels a lot like when you first show someone how to edit things in the windows registry. High risk, high reward and all that.
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The same guy on youtube has made reference a couple of times about some settings requiring a four-digit PIN code from the dealer to make some changes. Has anyone here run into anything like that yet?
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Just wondering where we are with proxy alignment for the 8.4 screens? I know last time I read through the thread and maybe your other one about the screen. That you were able to do everything besides getting it working via proxy alignment, thus not being able to use the screen without fault codes.

Has this finally been fixed? I am ok to get one of the 8.4 screens to swap out my 5"? I do not want to rely on the dealer to do this for me, I doubt they will... relying on the dealer is horrible choice :/

Thanks for your work on this system! PS: is there vids anywhere about this system so I can see how it works and maybe your 1st post you should post links on what you bought to use this system. I understand some certain blue/gray/red(maybe?) might be involved and link to the software would be awesome!

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DITTO 100% I'm rooting for you guys and will be one of the first to jump in if/ when all your hard work comes to fruition. Thanks so much!
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I am also curious about the several TPMS options floating around in there... Wife and I are back to considering a second set of rims with dedicated snow tires but I don't want to muck with TPMS in the snow tire rims. I also don't want an orange light on the dash all winter. If I can turn TPMS off for the winter or otherwise suppress the error when rims without sensors are installed.... thaa'd be great!
Do not worry installing snow tires with rims without TPMS sensors.
The orange light illuminates just one trip after wheels change.
Then it disappears with the TPMS picture together.
(Based on my own experience)
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I've had the tire pressure light on for 3 weeks now. Bought used wheels and previous owner said wheels had sensors on them. Debating having that looked into or just getting a cheap TPMS system off Amazon for piece of mind for the wife.

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Do not worry installing snow tires with rims without TPMS sensors.
The orange light illuminates just one trip after wheels change.
Then it disappears with the TPMS picture together.
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I've had the tire pressure light on for 3 weeks now. Bought used wheels and previous owner said wheels had sensors on them. Debating having that looked into or just getting a cheap TPMS system off Amazon for piece of mind for the wife.
Well, there are two different TPMS systems installed depending on your trim (according to the manual), and then there are some countries with TPMS laws (such as the USA) and some countries without such laws (Canada, for example), so we have to keep these things in mind as this I'm sure is why we have the two conflicting bits of information here.

So @serg102 it would help to know your country and your trim level perhaps.

@6door74, I don't have a ton of experience with TPMS sensors but I would not expect you could just buy any old set of used rims and magically have your car pick up on them. Obviously we cannot have this scenario where you are driving along and your car reads a low sensor of a car in the lane next to yours, somehow your car has to know which sensors belong to it. The programmer in me translates this into sensor IDs being programmed into the car computer. It was this way with Hondas I owned recently, I don't know about Jeep/FCA. My concern is that you likely cannot just buy a random set of sensors off amazon and have your car magically pick those up either.

I'm really only speculating though, I don't know anything for sure on these and with the conflicting info like the example we just got above it seems there is no way to know unless you try something on your car yourself. Still, I work under the assumption that new TPMS sensors will always need to be programmed into the car computer to work.
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I've had the tire pressure light on for 3 weeks now. Bought used wheels and previous owner said wheels had sensors on them. Debating having that looked into or just getting a cheap TPMS system off Amazon for piece of mind for the wife.
Well, there are two different TPMS systems installed depending on your trim (according to the manual), and then there are some countries with TPMS laws (such as the USA) and some countries without such laws (Canada, for example), so we have to keep these things in mind as this I'm sure is why we have the two conflicting bits of information here.

So @serg102 it would help to know your country and your trim level perhaps.

@6door74, I don't have a ton of experience with TPMS sensors but I would not expect you could just buy any old set of used rims and magically have your car pick up on them. Obviously we cannot have this scenario where you are driving along and your car reads a low sensor of a car in the lane next to yours, somehow your car has to know which sensors belong to it. The programmer in me translates this into sensor IDs being programmed into the car computer. It was this way with Hondas I owned recently, I don't know about Jeep/FCA. My concern is that you likely cannot just buy a random set of sensors off amazon and have your car magically pick those up either.

I'm really only speculating though, I don't know anything for sure on these and with the conflicting info like the example we just got above it seems there is no way to know unless you try something on your car yourself. Still, I work under the assumption that new TPMS sensors will always need to be programmed into the car computer to work.
It wasn't any old set of rims. They were off a 2018 jeep cherokee. People have had luck with their car picking up sensors from wheels from a different model but same manufacturer.

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Been working with the alfaobd dev last few days. So far he hasn't been able to see an issue with the app and the trailer tow module. If anyone is willing to test just connecting to the trailer tow module with alfaobd it would help him out. MultiscanECU said it was able to communicate with it, so I'm still hoping we can find the problem.
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Good news! While working with the developer we were able to do a successful proxy alignment!! I used a special build of the application that used the blue adapter to talk to the modules instead of relying on the OBDLinkMX. At this point we have a few questions. Since I'm the first to try it, we aren't sure if it is just an issue with my obdlink/trailer tow module, or if this is necessary on all Jeep compasses. The developer is willing to make the changes in the app to support our vehicle, but he needs more people to try and report back. My issue could be a one off, or systemic of a change he needs to implement. The test is risk free, even if the proxy alignment fails, if you didn't make any configuration changes, nothing will be changed.
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Ok @n4cr2k what would I need to do, specifically?

I currently only have the OBDLinkMX and trial version of the app, my adapter cables are still probably a week out yet in the overseas mail and I've been waiting to pay for the full version of the app as long as possible to see if it will ever go on sale, meanwhile every day I get about 50 cents more google play store credit from answering google rewards questions so trying to build up as much of that as possible (I have about $35 towards the $50 app, every buck counts!)

If the developer is offering discount codes or something to those conducting tests you can send those right to my PM

My buggy is a 2017.5 MP Limited with factory tow module.
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You have enough to at least test. Since you don't have the grey cable yet, you won't be able to complete the proxy alignment. But you can get far enough to determine if the trailer tow module has the same issues as mine did. Also, to anyone else, if you don't have the tow module, you're all set to start doing car configuration changes and proxy alignments.

Here is a walkthrough on how to perform the proxy alignment.

Since you're using the demo app, its probably a good idea to get everything set up and make sure you know how to go through the procedure so it doesn't time out on you. The proxy alignment itself only takes about 2 minutes.

1. pair the obdlinkMX with your phone.
a. plug it into the obd2 port on the left side below the steering column. with the vehicle on, but not running. hit the button the adapter to initiate pairing mode. follow the normal procedures on your phone
2. open alfaobd, click the gears icon in the top, select interface, and choose obdlink Bluetooth.
3. back on the main screen click the Bluetooth icon. You may get a message about allowing permission. select the obdlinkMX device from the list of Bluetooth devices. Once it connects it should indicate so in the text box
4. in the my car section choose Jeep, model -> compass (MP) MY2017> function -> body computer -> control unit -> body computer delphi/marelli
5. tap the connect button, in the text box below it should indicate connected
6. If you got this far its a good sign you don't need a bypass module. another good test is to click the battery icon in the bottom toolbar and choose read system ID or Status. If it dumps back your BCM configuration and vehicle status that's good
7. click the icon below of the car with the open hood
8. scroll to the very bottom and choose PROXY alignment
9. Hit start, then next

It should start going through the various modules and say writing configuration to XXX (YYY)... completed successfully (a page or two back I have a screenshot). Here will be the ultimate test. After it finishes writing to the blind spot sensors, if it just hangs then gives an error about losing communication and key not being in MAR. Your TTM is the same as mine, and the dev needs to make adjustments to the alfaobd software. If it writes successfully to the tow module, it will then prompt to insert the grey cable and hit OK. Since you don't have the cable, at this point you can just exit. Nothing has changed, it just wrote back what it read from the system.

Here is another test, not sure if it will work in demo mode

1. from the main screen, connect via Bluetooth same as above
2. choose Jeep compass, trailer tow, try either module (I had to use Var. 1)
3. hit connect.

If it connects, great everything is working. If they both time out like mine did, this indicates the dev needs to update the app.

A few tips, this all needs done with the vehicle on, but not running. Make sure your battery is charged. not a bad idea to turn off headlights. From my research, the infotainment screen should be on. It might not be a bad idea to take the vehicle around the block between tests if your playing with the software and run the battery down too low. I already drained the battery during one session of testing.

As for the price of the software, yes $50 is steep for an android app, but this is nothing compared to what other software/tools of this ability go for. I've seen similar tools for other vehicles cost 300-500+. I did the same thing and cashed in my google play survey credit. But after working with the Dev and seeing how helpful and supportive he's been, I'd gladly pay another $50 now that I can unlock and modify my vehicle as I choose. Especially being able to do it all without a trip to the dealer. That alone is worth the price of the app.

Let me know if you have any questions. Curious to see what your results are.
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OK well, can't do the proxy alignment with the trial version so... that will have to wait. I could have another 3 bucks off the app by the time my adapters arrive

As far as connecting to the trailer tow module... that was a no go (time out). I am confused, though, because when you are picking between the two modules it clearly says "Use MS-CAN blue adapter" (which I don't have yet),



but then when I ignore that and press on to connect it says the following:



So... adapter or no adapter? I don't understand. I am using the OBDLink MX.

Either way, with either module version it ends in this after 4 attempts:




So, unless it is a matter of needing the blue adapter, it seems the developer is likely going to need to expedite the roll out of the updated app version you were testing.
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Well that may not be the result you wanted, but it is encouraging. If it's correct, that means my trailer tow module/obdlinkMX isn't a fluke and the dev needs to make a change to the app. Just to confirm everything else is working, did you try to connect to any of the other modules like climate control or radio->uconnect? The app will show/say MS-CAN BLUE adapter, but it isn't required if you are using the OBDLinkMX, the only exception to this is the Trailer tow module. And even if you had your cables, without the modified app version it will still fail when trying to connect to the TTM. If you can successfully interface with the other modules I'll let the dev know that this is probably a more systemic issue and ask him to update the app accordingly for us.
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@n4cr2k Yes I have been able to connect to other modules such as the engine module with no problems.
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Latest update.

I've been working with the dev on the problem and testing solutions. We have isolated the issue to just the trailer tow module. So if you don't have that package and want to make configuration changes / proxy alignments, you can start using alfaobd right now. We still don't know why the OBDLink MX isn't able to talk to the TTM on that CAN bus without the adapter as it seems it should be able to. We are escalating this to the OBDLink support folks. Hopefully they can address this in a firmware update to the device. Worst case the new app version will allow the use of the blue cable as a workaround.

Now that I can perform proxy alignments I enabled NAV & GPS presence in the car configuration and did the proxy alignment. All worked no problem. no blinking odometer or warning lights. The Nav icon showed up on my screen, but it isn't working yet. I just get a loading screen with a few progress bar dots and a picture of the globe. The sync clock with GPS feature still isn't working with the correct time zone. Time is correct, just wrong offset. Just for a test I enabled the travel link feature. To my surprise it worked fine. I imagine it will stop functioning soon since I don't have a sxm subscription. Interestingly when I click the weather, I get my current city. So that would seem to indicate my GPS is working.

If anyone has a 8.4 Nav factory or otherwise and has a compatible OBD adapter and the demo of alphaobd let me know if you are interesting in helping. I'd like to compare the output of your body computer car configuration and uconnect system information. Perhaps there is another setting we need to enable to get this 100% working.
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Glad I ordered the full pack of cables and not just the grey one! Really shouldn't need more than blue and grey for the MP Compass though, right?

Anyways, what all hardware have you changed so far @n4cr2k? Just the UAQ radio or did you add in some other modules as well? Did your previous radio have SXM capability?

It would be kinda nice to have the navigation, not sure I would be willing to spend a ton of money on it but I have slightly damaged my 8.4 non-nav screen accidentally this summer (just a scratch in one corner), so if I were going to replace it might as well upgrade if its reasonably easy to do.

I wonder if travel link will work for me, I do pay for SXM subscription now so perhaps it would "just work", that would be cool.

Can't wait for the adapters to arrive so I can get to having fun!
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