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post #1 of 7 Old 06-10-2019, 11:43 AM Thread Starter
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No Warning, No Codes, NO THROTTLE

Hey guys just checking in! So for the last 3 months (around 43-47k miles) I have had a persistent reoccuring issue.

It happened the first time when I was driving along on route 80 in NJ (relatively flat part) in 5th gear with cruise control on. All of a sudden without me touching anything the cruise disengaged. I noticed pretty quickly that my gas pedal (throttle) was unresponsive. I tried downshifting and I rev-match so I usually give it a little blip of gas to downshift and this did not work. I lurched through gear changes down to 1st and pulled off the highway. I shut the jeep off, turned it back on, revved the gas pedal and I was up to 5k rpm no problem. Car drove normally for the rest of the trip.

Fast forward a few weeks and I was sitting in a parking lot with the engine running after a hike. I started off and noticed that I couldn't get to the top of 1st gear, it was as if I was limited to 2300 rpm. Once the engine got there the throttle gave no more. I could upshift through the gears, but again to downshift I could not give it any more gas. I pulled over right away and shut it off, turned it back on right away and it was fine.

Now this happens when I go to pick my kid up from school, if i'm waiting and idling for more than 3-5 minutes, the throttle will be electronically limited to 2300 rpm. I turn the jeep off and then back on and it's fine.

Now this happens even more frequently, I have had it happen pulling off from a stoplight (wait time <1 minute). THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

I called the jeep dealer and explained the problem his response "Oh that sounds like limp mode it's a safety feature so you can't redline". Well if that's a safety feature it should indicate that there is a problem on the dash. No check engine light, no any indicator that something is wrong. The only way to know is you hit the gas pedal and it's unresponsive.

THIS IS A MANUAL TRANSMISSION ENGINE THAT IS NOT A SAFETY FEATURE ANYTHING THAT REMOVES MY CONTROL OF THE THROTTLE COULD CAUSE DEATH.

If this is jeeps idea of "safety" I have some news for you, any driver more inexperienced than I would have died at several times that the throttle just decided to not work. It is essential for gear changes to not upset the balance of the car, it is required when changing lanes or making maneuvers at speed on a highway. If my wife or daughter were driving and this hurt them I would SUE THE **** OUT OF YOU.

I will be bringing it in tomorrow to get them to look at it, but by their initial response I am not keen on hearing what bull**** excuse jeep has cooked up for this one.

I love so much about this jeep but this was the last straw NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY. I am telling everyone in person that I meet how much garbage jeep has become and the pile of bull**** (mostly tech issues) that I have to deal with because of this half-baked computer system.

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Hey guys just checking in! So for the last 3 months (around 43-47k miles) I have had a persistent reoccuring issue.

It happened the first time when I was driving along on route 80 in NJ (relatively flat part) in 5th gear with cruise control on. All of a sudden without me touching anything the cruise disengaged. I noticed pretty quickly that my gas pedal (throttle) was unresponsive. I tried downshifting and I rev-match so I usually give it a little blip of gas to downshift and this did not work. I lurched through gear changes down to 1st and pulled off the highway. I shut the jeep off, turned it back on, revved the gas pedal and I was up to 5k rpm no problem. Car drove normally for the rest of the trip.

Fast forward a few weeks and I was sitting in a parking lot with the engine running after a hike. I started off and noticed that I couldn't get to the top of 1st gear, it was as if I was limited to 2300 rpm. Once the engine got there the throttle gave no more. I could upshift through the gears, but again to downshift I could not give it any more gas. I pulled over right away and shut it off, turned it back on right away and it was fine.

Now this happens when I go to pick my kid up from school, if i'm waiting and idling for more than 3-5 minutes, the throttle will be electronically limited to 2300 rpm. I turn the jeep off and then back on and it's fine.

Now this happens even more frequently, I have had it happen pulling off from a stoplight (wait time <1 minute). THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

I called the jeep dealer and explained the problem his response "Oh that sounds like limp mode it's a safety feature so you can't redline". Well if that's a safety feature it should indicate that there is a problem on the dash. No check engine light, no any indicator that something is wrong. The only way to know is you hit the gas pedal and it's unresponsive.

THIS IS A MANUAL TRANSMISSION ENGINE THAT IS NOT A SAFETY FEATURE ANYTHING THAT REMOVES MY CONTROL OF THE THROTTLE COULD CAUSE DEATH.

If this is jeeps idea of "safety" I have some news for you, any driver more inexperienced than I would have died at several times that the throttle just decided to not work. It is essential for gear changes to not upset the balance of the car, it is required when changing lanes or making maneuvers at speed on a highway. If my wife or daughter were driving and this hurt them I would SUE THE **** OUT OF YOU.

I will be bringing it in tomorrow to get them to look at it, but by their initial response I am not keen on hearing what bull**** excuse jeep has cooked up for this one.

I love so much about this jeep but this was the last straw NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY. I am telling everyone in person that I meet how much garbage jeep has become and the pile of bull**** (mostly tech issues) that I have to deal with because of this half-baked computer system.
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post #3 of 7 Old 06-12-2019, 04:55 AM
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Hey guys just checking in! So for the last 3 months (around 43-47k miles) I have had a persistent reoccuring issue.



It happened the first time when I was driving along on route 80 in NJ (relatively flat part) in 5th gear with cruise control on. All of a sudden without me touching anything the cruise disengaged. I noticed pretty quickly that my gas pedal (throttle) was unresponsive. I tried downshifting and I rev-match so I usually give it a little blip of gas to downshift and this did not work. I lurched through gear changes down to 1st and pulled off the highway. I shut the jeep off, turned it back on, revved the gas pedal and I was up to 5k rpm no problem. Car drove normally for the rest of the trip.



Fast forward a few weeks and I was sitting in a parking lot with the engine running after a hike. I started off and noticed that I couldn't get to the top of 1st gear, it was as if I was limited to 2300 rpm. Once the engine got there the throttle gave no more. I could upshift through the gears, but again to downshift I could not give it any more gas. I pulled over right away and shut it off, turned it back on right away and it was fine.



Now this happens when I go to pick my kid up from school, if i'm waiting and idling for more than 3-5 minutes, the throttle will be electronically limited to 2300 rpm. I turn the jeep off and then back on and it's fine.



Now this happens even more frequently, I have had it happen pulling off from a stoplight (wait time <1 minute). THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.



I called the jeep dealer and explained the problem his response "Oh that sounds like limp mode it's a safety feature so you can't redline". Well if that's a safety feature it should indicate that there is a problem on the dash. No check engine light, no any indicator that something is wrong. The only way to know is you hit the gas pedal and it's unresponsive.



THIS IS A MANUAL TRANSMISSION ENGINE THAT IS NOT A SAFETY FEATURE ANYTHING THAT REMOVES MY CONTROL OF THE THROTTLE COULD CAUSE DEATH.



If this is jeeps idea of "safety" I have some news for you, any driver more inexperienced than I would have died at several times that the throttle just decided to not work. It is essential for gear changes to not upset the balance of the car, it is required when changing lanes or making maneuvers at speed on a highway. If my wife or daughter were driving and this hurt them I would SUE THE **** OUT OF YOU.



I will be bringing it in tomorrow to get them to look at it, but by their initial response I am not keen on hearing what bull**** excuse jeep has cooked up for this one.



I love so much about this jeep but this was the last straw NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY. I am telling everyone in person that I meet how much garbage jeep has become and the pile of bull**** (mostly tech issues) that I have to deal with because of this half-baked computer system.


What year is ur Jeep, Iíve had a similar issue where all of a sudden it just goes into limp mode. Took it to the dealership and they had if for a day and told me that this was just an update issue to the engine and the computer. I live the Jeep but this is a true issue that Jeep has to fix ASAP...


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So I got the jeep back and it has not had the problem since. The guys at the dealership say this is a KNOWN ISSUE WITH A REPAIR BULLETIN. They had to reprogram a PCM and now the issue should not occur again.

That's right, yet another mysterious "known issue" pops up for the 2nd gen jeep compass that makes it UN-DRIVEABLE. Watch out guys, as this could happen to any of you that have not had this PCM update.

This company, and it's product are a disgrace. I don't know if it's bad management, bad engineering, outsourcing the production to Mexico, too much untested computer technology crammed into a vehicle or what.

This solidifies it for me, Jeep is now a garbage brand.

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Hey, they did the update and you're all fixed. What's the problem? "Known issue" probably means the problem is so rare there is no recall but its happened enough times that FCA found a solution. Cool it.

I bought a brand new 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix. The first week I had it the CD player ate my CD and jammed so completely that my dealer had to replace the whole unit. I admit I was POed. However, I got almost 250,000 miles out of that car with only a few repairs (mostly tie-rod ends -- that was a regular thing).

By the same token I also had a '93 Cherokee. Most people loved theirs but mine was a drumbeat of problems even though it was brand new. I traded it after 6 months. Sometimes you've got to cut your losses.

In your case, I suggest being a little patient. We don't live in a perfect world.
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Hey, they did the update and you're all fixed. What's the problem? "Known issue" probably means the problem is so rare there is no recall but its happened enough times that FCA found a solution. Cool it.

I bought a brand new 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix. The first week I had it the CD player ate my CD and jammed so completely that my dealer had to replace the whole unit. I admit I was POed. However, I got almost 250,000 miles out of that car with only a few repairs (mostly tie-rod ends -- that was a regular thing).

By the same token I also had a '93 Cherokee. Most people loved theirs but mine was a drumbeat of problems even though it was brand new. I traded it after 6 months. Sometimes you've got to cut your losses.

In your case, I suggest being a little patient. We don't live in a perfect world.
there is a big difference between a CD not playing AND YOUR CAR LOSING ALL POWER in heavy traffic on the highway.

these constant computer bugs and glitches and reprograms are unacceptable. I don't care how "patient" you expect people to be. There is no excuse for garbage like this to be on the market.

The problem is as I have always stated; they are trying to jam too much half-baked tech into these vehicles and that is just adding additional points of failure.

This and many other posts on here should stand as a clear warning to anyone: BUY ANYTHING ELSE

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there is a big difference between a CD not playing AND YOUR CAR LOSING ALL POWER in heavy traffic on the highway.

these constant computer bugs and glitches and reprograms are unacceptable. I don't care how "patient" you expect people to be. There is no excuse for garbage like this to be on the market.

The problem is as I have always stated; they are trying to jam too much half-baked tech into these vehicles and that is just adding additional points of failure.

This and many other posts on here should stand as a clear warning to anyone: BUY ANYTHING ELSE
Agreed, unless you're a music fanatic, the CD player is not as critical as a power loss.

But my second point stands: they're making 10-15,000 per month of these things and your complaint isn't a leader on this forum, and forums like this are where people bring problems. So as I said, your problem is apparently rare. If it was happening to all of them the NTSB would force a recall.

Indeed, "limp mode" is there to keep you from ruining the engine, tranny, or whatever the issue is. Lots of new cars have similar features. Let's imagine this problem happened after your warranty expired. You'd be some angry if you had to buy a new engine vs getting a software patch. In that case limp mode might have saved you a couple grand.

Finally, we don't live in a perfect world. Sometimes things go wrong. There are c30,000 parts in a modern vehicle. One of those parts failed on your Jeep and FCA fixed it. What more can they do? They honored the warranty; they fulfilled their obligation -- you can't fault them for that.

If the problem persists and they blow you off, then you've got a legitimate issue, but if they took care of you you should just thank them for standing behind their product. Seems to me that they've treated you fairly.
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