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post #61 of 132 Old 05-21-2011, 08:35 PM
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Yeah, I'm not sure why EU Compass model comes with projector lamps while US model does not. Perhaps we can order from EU dealership? Anyway, I got my fog lamp HID installed. See the attached pics.

Sorry, I didn't get a chance to get a before and after shot. I will say that I'm happy with the new kit. All lights are now consistent to near diamond to xenon-white lights.

I'll get a better night-time shot on the cut-off. Will need to find a place to take the shot. I do see the fog-light cut-off light though and it complements the low-beam HID kit very nicely.

EDIT: the day-shot(right pic) shows the fog-light with a hint of blue(lens effect? or it hasn't taken long enough to heat up; took pic just after I turned on light) but that seems to be normal during the day and it depends on the angle of which you're looking at it. Nonetheless, it comes out with a nice bright-white light at night as seen from the first picture on left.
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Yeah, I'm not sure why EU Compass model comes with projector lamps while US model does not. Perhaps we can order from EU dealership? Anyway, I got my fog lamp HID installed. See the attached pics.

Sorry, I didn't get a chance to get a before and after shot. I will say that I'm happy with the new kit. All lights are now consistent to near diamond to xenon-white lights.

I'll get a better night-time shot on the cut-off. Will need to find a place to take the shot. I do see the fog-light cut-off light though and it complements the low-beam HID kit very nicely.

EDIT: the day-shot(right pic) shows the fog-light with a hint of blue(lens effect? or it hasn't taken long enough to heat up; took pic just after I turned on light) but that seems to be normal during the day and it depends on the angle of which you're looking at it. Nonetheless, it comes out with a nice bright-white light at night as seen from the first picture on left.
Very nice!

That is kind of a weird blue color, almost greenish. I know that when you look at projectors, there is a slight blue tint to the very top of the cutoff, also, aftermarket HID's have to warm up, so they must have a slight blue color when they first turn on.

I really need to get some HID's for mine now.

Question. Are the HID's you have all plug-n-play or did you have to use relays? Is there any flicker to them or do they stay on nice and bright?

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MUST use relay. Used without them and you'll end up with random lights-out or slight flickers. Ever since I installed the relay on my low-beam HID, constant sunlight...

Another relay is on its way for my foglight...forgot to order with it. Relay should be here by Tuesday.

EDIT: it's pretty much plug-n-play...the only challenge is getting to the cables to make connections...

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Awesome, thanks for the info on the HID's!

I will have to make sure to get a relay when I order them for mine. I think I will go with 5,000k so that it can be the whitest possible.

I would love to see some night pics of your beam cutoff if you ever get a chance. I am excited to get HID's! I just really wish they had projector kits for the Compass here in the States or I could get a set from Europe...

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hey guys, new member here, and fortunately (for you) i work as a salesman at a chrysler jeep dodge dealership. i also own a 2011 compass lattitude.
IRSmart, can you please do us a favor and find out if there's a code, switch, or something we can do to enable DVD video playback while engine is on?

Right now, the DVD video player is enabled only when the car is parked.

Just finished washing car and took a wet-look pics...

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the only way to play DVDs while in drive on the media center radios is to buy a lockpick, an aftermarket device that plugs into the rear of the radio. it is several hundred dollars.

oh, and guys, please read the article i posted about HIDs. for the sake of other drivers on the road, please do not install HIDs in your compass until we have found a way to do it safely, namely by putting in the propor projectors to safely aim that light. here is the article again:

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and remember guys, even if we were able to get a set of european projector headlights, there are still the two issues that i posted in here before to contend with, in addition to wiring them up. these cars have such tempermental computers in them now (believe me...) that it will be very difficult to get these to work properly.
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and remember guys, even if we were able to get a set of european projector headlights, there are still the two issues that i posted in here before to contend with, in addition to wiring them up. these cars have such tempermental computers in them now (believe me...) that it will be very difficult to get these to work properly.
Jeep owners are creative people. Give us a set of projector lights and we'll make it work!

As for the HID kit warning, well, it's too late!! It's working beautifully and no Internet know-how is going to tell me what I can't do...
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Jeep owners are creative people. Give us a set of projector lights and we'll make it work!

As for the HID kit warning, well, it's too late!! It's working beautifully and no Internet know-how is going to tell me what I can't do...
Well put!

Besides, I live in the south and they don't care what you do with your car. Heck, they don't even have state inspections for vehicles so you can run around without anything on your engine like CC's or mufflers. Also, the around here don't obey any of their own traffic laws, like using turn signals or completely stopping at the stop signs, so no worries here!

I will probably be ordering the H11 HID kits here soon. As soon as I do and get them installed, I will post .

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I wonder where ohnoesaz is?

I have not seen him on here for a while.

I wonder if he has found out anything else about the GC headlights and if he has done anything recently on his Compass?

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Jeep owners are creative people. Give us a set of projector lights and we'll make it work!

As for the HID kit warning, well, it's too late!! It's working beautifully and no Internet know-how is going to tell me what I can't do...
i understand, i can do the wiring myself. it wouldn't stop the swap altogether, i just wanted to reiterate the fact that the headlight swap themselves is not the only concern.

as far as the HIDs go, it is not the law that is my concern, it is the safety of other drivers on the road, and your own safety. the fact that you think you can see better with HIDs than hallogens is an illusion. your eyes are more sensitive to yellow light than blue light, so the HIDs are a problem there. they are brighter, yes. that is also a bad thing, because your eyes focus on the bright light right in front of you, hindering your ability to see long distances.

the biggest problem with the cheap HID retrofits is the fact that your hallogen housing is not meant to properly aim an HID bulb. the bulb itself is a different shape than a hallogen bulb, that's why the beam patterns are different. simply aiming them down doesn't solve this problem, it simply creates an even more dangerous situation. not only do you have a poor beam pattern, but now it's improperly aimed down at the ground.

trust me guys, i know what i'm talking about. my mustang has straight pipes on it after removing the 4 catalitic converters (a $40,000 fine from the EPA if i get cought, btw) so obviously the popo aren't my first concern. but people get HIDs without having any knowledge about the negatives about them, they only hear how awesome they are, and how much better people can see, which are both not true. i'm not trying to tell anyone on here what to do, i'm simply trying to make people more informed in hopes that they'll make the right decision. the only PROPOR way to install HIDs into a car that did not come equipped with them is to install them in a housing that was tested and designed to properly emit the light that comes from those HIDs. in our case, that would be the projector headlights from the euro compass or the american grand cherokee. any other way is simply a danger to yourself.
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as far as the HIDs go, it is not the law that is my concern, it is the safety of other drivers on the road, and your own safety. the fact that you think you can see better with HIDs than hallogens is an illusion. your eyes are more sensitive to yellow light than blue light, so the HIDs are a problem there. they are brighter, yes. that is also a bad thing, because your eyes focus on the bright light right in front of you, hindering your ability to see long distances.

the biggest problem with the cheap HID retrofits is the fact that your hallogen housing is not meant to properly aim an HID bulb. the bulb itself is a different shape than a hallogen bulb, that's why the beam patterns are different. simply aiming them down doesn't solve this problem, it simply creates an even more dangerous situation. not only do you have a poor beam pattern, but now it's improperly aimed down at the ground.
IRSmart, we're just playing with you.. But I respectfully disagree to some of your technical information. The beam pattern does not come from the bulb shape; the beam pattern is directly related to the bulb housing. The bulb housing is engineered so that it will properly project or mirror the lights coming from the bulb to specific areas on the road. If you look inside the bulb housing, you'll see curvature or patterns. These curvature patterns direct lights from the bulb into the road. If you don't touch the housing adjustments, you should be fine...and yes, there will be some extraneous lights outside of the designated projected zones but that is the effect of brighter and more powerful light.

The white light does produce some inconvenience to other drivers. When I see a white light far ahead, I know it's HID and I look at it. I think I'm more curious at it than anything else just because you don't see too many white(as opposed to yellow) lights on the road yet. From my experience, HID on cars does not produce a serious issue; it's serious only when other drivers stare at it(like me) and become distracted. I'm getting better at ignoring these lights...I look only to see if his "white light" is brighter than mine...hehee
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I agree with Javelin.

There are quite a few cars out there that have standard reflector type housings, but came with HID bulbs (ie some of the last generation Ford Mustang's, Lexus IS200, Lincoln Towncar, etc.) The point is that the light comes from a focal point and the reflector or projector pinpoint that light to a certain shape, regardless of the shape of the bulb.

As far as looking at bright lights on the road, I am guilty of that too. I am a huge light snob. I cannot stand yellow lights and I like to look for the white lights and see how they overpower yellow lights on the road.

Sometimes, I wish that it was dark all of the time, or at least overcast because I love lights so much! (at least when they are done tastefully)

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I agree with Javelin.

There are quite a few cars out there that have standard reflector type housings, but came with HID bulbs (ie some of the last generation Ford Mustang's, Lexus IS200, Lincoln Towncar, etc.) The point is that the light comes from a focal point and the reflector or projector pinpoint that light to a certain shape, regardless of the shape of the bulb.

As far as looking at bright lights on the road, I am guilty of that too. I am a huge light snob. I cannot stand yellow lights and I like to look for the white lights and see how they overpower yellow lights on the road.

Sometimes, I wish that it was dark all of the time, or at least overcast because I love lights so much! (at least when they are done tastefully)
White-light junkies!!!! Last night coming home late from work, I intently followed a car on another lane from 40-50 feet away. As I sped up to pass, I watched my white light overpower his yellow lights even before I was head-to-head and once I passed him, his yellow light is almost non-existent...what a feeling......that HID fog light rocks! I thought of taking a video off my phone...but that would have been dangerous.

BTW, I've only been flashed once by another Jeep...that was about 6 weeks ago...think he's just jealous...
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WLJ's for life!

I think the Compass already has great reflectors as it is because my lights overpower others on the road easily all the time. I love driving up by the side of vehicles or behind them and my light envelops around their car and lights up the road in front of them... so if I get the HID's, it will be even better and will actually HELP them, not hinder them because then they can see better too!

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I think the Compass already has great reflectors as it is because my lights overpower others on the road easily all the time. I love driving up by the side of vehicles or behind them and my light envelops around their car and lights up the road in front of them... so if I get the HID's, it will be even better and will actually HELP them, not hinder them because then they can see better too!
I agree. My Silverstar Ultra 4100K was really good with it, except that it still had a hint of yellowness which I din't like. I'm not going back to halogen except for a temporary replacement...
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I agree. My Silverstar Ultra 4100K was really good with it, except that it still had a hint of yellowness which I din't like. I'm not going back to halogen except for a temporary replacement...
Have you or anyone else here or anywhere had any experience with Philips Crystal Vision Ultra's? I had the Silverstar Ultra's on my Focus, and they looked great and lit up the road, but i had them for a little over 2 years and one was a little yellower than the other, quite noticeable to me. Also, pretty expensive considering you can buy HID kits cheaper than a pair of Ultra's...

Just wondering how those are compared.

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But I respectfully disagree to some of your technical information. The beam pattern does not come from the bulb shape; the beam pattern is directly related to the bulb housing. The bulb housing is engineered so that it will properly project or mirror the lights coming from the bulb to specific areas on the road. If you look inside the bulb housing, you'll see curvature or patterns. These curvature patterns direct lights from the bulb into the road. If you don't touch the housing adjustments, you should be fine...and yes, there will be some extraneous lights outside of the designated projected zones but that is the effect of brighter and more powerful light.
you are correct to a point. but the arc in an aftermarket HID bulb is indeed shaped differently. the arc of light is in a diffrent location than the fillament from a hallogen bulb. imagine taking a maglight flashlight and shining it waaaay down into your backyard. now, take the end of the flashlight and turn it ever so slightly to the left or the right. the beam pattern changes drastically, and you've moved the bulb less than a millimeter. that is how sensitive the reflectors are.

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There are quite a few cars out there that have standard reflector type housings, but came with HID bulbs (ie some of the last generation Ford Mustang's, Lexus IS200, Lincoln Towncar, etc.) The point is that the light comes from a focal point and the reflector or projector pinpoint that light to a certain shape, regardless of the shape of the bulb.
correct (except for the mustang part, they use projectors. i'm a mustang guy ). but in those situations, those housings were designed to properly project the light coming from the HID bulb. by changing from a hallogen to an HID bulb, you have moved the focal point, so no amount of up or down aiming can get that focal point back to where it belonged, thus the poor beam pattern.

this is an exerpt from the site i linked. it explains what i'm trying to say and has a diagram of the differences in the light sources.

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A halogen bulb has a cylindrical light source: the glowing filament. The space immediately surrounding the cylinder of light is completely dark, and so the sharpest contrast between bright and dark is along the edges of the cylinder of light. The ends of the filament cylinder fade from bright to dark. An HID bulb, on the other hand, has a crescent-shaped light source -- the arc. It's crescent-shaped because as it passes through the space between the two electrodes, its heat causes it to try to rise. The space immediately surrounding the crescent of light glows in layers...the closer to the crescent of light, the brighter the glow. The ends of the arc crescent are the brightest points, and immediately beyond these points is completely dark, so the sharpest contrast between bright and dark is at the ends of the crescent of light...When designing the optics (lens and/or reflector) for a lamp, the characteristics of the light source are the driving factor around which everything else must be engineered. If you go and change the light source, you've done the equivalent of putting on somebody else's eyeglasses: You can probably make them fit on your face OK, but you won't see properly.


here are three examples from the website that i linked. it shows a government test of HID bulbs. they tested the beam pattern from a hallogen bulb. then put in an HID bulb, and even aimed it the best they could. it still failed miserably. i wish they hadn't aimed it so that you could see the effect of just swapping one for the other. by aiming it, they tainted the results IMO.

1998 Nissan Frontier (skip to page 11 for test results)
1996 Chevrolet Lumina (skip to page 9 for test results)
1998 Nissan Frontier (test #2) (skip to page 12 for test results)

again, i'm not trying to tell anyone what to do, just trying to keep misinformation out of the forums. i go through this on almost every board i'm on, because the common misconception is that aftermarket HID kits are so much better than hallogens. just yesterday i had this conversation with the long distance kicker of the baltimore ravens. he had no idea about the side effects and took them out of his 2011 dodge ram.

but we're getting off topic. mods, feel free to split these posts up into another topic if needed.

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here are three examples from the website that i linked. it shows a government test of HID bulbs. they tested the beam pattern from a hallogen bulb. then put in an HID bulb, and even aimed it the best they could. it still failed miserably. i wish they hadn't aimed it so that you could see the effect of just swapping one for the other. by aiming it, they tainted the results IMO.

1998 Nissan Frontier (skip to page 11 for test results)
1996 Chevrolet Lumina (skip to page 9 for test results)
1998 Nissan Frontier (test #2) (skip to page 12 for test results)

again, i'm not trying to tell anyone what to do, just trying to keep misinformation out of the forums. i go through this on almost every board i'm on, because the common misconception is that aftermarket HID kits are so much better than hallogens. just yesterday i had this conversation with the long distance kicker of the baltimore ravens. he had no idea about the side effects and took them out of his 2011 dodge ram.

but we're getting off topic. mods, feel free to split these posts up into another topic if needed.
First off, thanks for being persistent...hehee

Now the facts:
1. The test were not done on 2011 Jeep Compass
2. The test subjects were older cars probably non-confirming to today's headlight standards.
3. You wished they haven't aim? You serious? When you removed headlight housing, YOU definitely have to re-aim. Otherwise, results would not be accurate at all. When we swap HID light bulbs, hint bulbs, we're exchanging bulbs and NOT the housing unit.
4. The Raven kicker is missing out. Not only that, he's got a great HID kit he probably can't return for refund.
5. Test. I think you missed it completely. Here's the test official report.
"Test failures identified were as follows: lower beam photometry and headlamp
color."


The test failure, to me, is non-consequential. My perception of the new photometry with the HID kit is perfectly fine...it's brighter, it's clearer, and the signs, specially road signs and the lines on the roads are illuminated well. These can help finding your road alignment when driving on snow days...

As for headlamp color, what's bad about it?
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First off, thanks for being persistent...hehee
not a problem, i've been known to be hard-headed lol and no offense has been received on my end, and i hope the same goes for all of you.

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inconsequential. the tests were done on housings designed to properly emit a beam pattern from a hallogen headlight. the tests were to prove that such a housing cannot (and did not) emit a propor beam pattern with an HID bulb in them. a compass headlight will have similar results.

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3. You wished they haven't aim? You serious? When you removed headlight housing, YOU definitely have to re-aim. Otherwise, results would not be accurate at all. When we swap HID light bulbs, hint bulbs, we're exchanging bulbs and NOT the housing unit.
not neccessarily true. you do not need to remove the headlight housings on all cars to replace the headlight bulbs (for example, in my 92 lumina you could just reach behind the housing). when you are aiming the headlight, you are simply adjusting the mechanism that holds the bulb itself in the housing (in most, but admitadly not all headlights, some do actually move the headlight, like my 98 neon). so my point was that by simply removing the hallogen bulb and replacing it with the HID, you are putting the new bulb in the exact same place in the housing that the old bulb was, thus showing the drastic differences that are truely there between a hallogen bulb and an HID bulb. i guess the government wanted to have the best possible results with the HIDs, which is why they aimed them.

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The test failure, to me, is non-consequential. My perception of the new photometry with the HID kit is perfectly fine...it's brighter, it's clearer, and the signs, specially road signs and the lines on the roads are illuminated well. These can help finding your road alignment when driving on snow days...

As for headlamp color, what's bad about it?
i think i can tackle both of these with a statement i made earlier:

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the fact that you think you can see better with HIDs than hallogens is an illusion. your eyes are more sensitive to yellow light than blue light, so the HIDs are a problem there. they are brighter, yes. that is also a bad thing, because your eyes focus on the bright light right in front of you, hindering your ability to see long distances.
the illusion that you can see better is because the light is brighter, but it is only brighter up close. with an HID kit, what you wind up with is a lot of improporly aimed, bright light of a different color that is dangerous for a lot of reasons. it's dangerous to you because your eyes are not as sensitive to blue light as they are to yellow (green is the most sensitive color to the human eye, followed by yellow). and because all of that bright light is right in front of you, your eyes are focused to a brighter light, hindering your ability to see out of your peripheral vision, and also at a distance. it's also dangerous to other drivers because of the glare they produce by shooting bright light in directions it doesn't belong.

please don't misunderstand me. i'm not trying to get everyone in the world to remove their aftermarket kits. but they are illegal for a reason. the government doesn't just hate us, in this case, it truely is in our best interest not to use them. and the companies that sell them know this. that's why they're marketed as "off road use only" because they know that they're against federal law. do are certainly free to do as you wish, but you will do it properly informed.
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please don't misunderstand me. i'm not trying to get everyone in the world to remove their aftermarket kits. but they are illegal for a reason. the government doesn't just hate us, in this case, it truely is in our best interest not to use them. and the companies that sell them know this. that's why they're marketed as "off road use only" because they know that they're against federal law. do are certainly free to do as you wish, but you will do it properly informed.
I'm sincerely grateful for your advice and concerns. It does make sense in many ways. Until I get pulled over, I'll stick with them...that's why I'm keeping my stock halogen bulbs, jic...
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You know, I find it interesting that those 3 links to the government test are all the old crappy headlight housings that had a smooth mirror backing and the front reflector lens. These I can definitely see how the light could be scattered all over the place because of the smooth reflective surface behind the light bouncing the light all over the place instead of the engineered compound reflector found in modern vehicles. If you notice, those vehicles I mentioned earlier with HID's in reflective housings all have compound reflectors BEHIND the light instead of in front. I don't know about you, but I have had a few vehicles that had those old headlights and they had horrible aim, cut-off, and light output anyway, so a nice bright light is going to make it substantially worse. That is why you never see those types of reflector housings anymore.

Most reflector housings today have a compound reflector behind the bulb that helps reflect the light much more accurately. That is why today you can see that there are lots of vehicles that have these reflector housings but still provide a really good cut-off on the light, just like the Compass.

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I'm sincerely grateful for your advice and concerns. It does make sense in many ways. Until I get pulled over, I'll stick with them...that's why I'm keeping my stock halogen bulbs, jic...
that's fine, i'm not trying to tell you to do otherwise. sometimes i just enjoy a healthy debate
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So I passed on the Grand Cherokee HID headlights. I like the look of the Compass halogen housings too much. I guess I'm weird haha, but I'm sticking with the stock housings.

But you can order the GC HID housings in the USA and they'll fit the Compass fine. Anyone interested DOES NOT need to order the European Compass version, not at all.

My mods I have done are new glossy black side pillars, chrome handles, and the chrome rear step pad that comes on the Limited (I have latitude), and rear LED blinker bulbs.

I can tell you right now: The glossy black side pillars make a huge difference.

I also bought a second set of foglight housings and dropped them off at a local shop to have them chromed.

I'll post pics tomorrow in a separate thread so I don't hijack this one (Chrome foglight housings won't be in the pics until I get them back, whenever that is)
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But you can order the GC HID housings in the USA and they'll fit the Compass fine. Anyone interested DOES NOT need to order the European Compass version, not at all.

I also bought a second set of foglight housings and dropped them off at a local shop to have them chromed.
Are you ABSOLUTELY certain the GC HID housing will fit the Compass? I'm not concerned about the wiring but the exact fitting. Visual comparison between the two housing looks identical...but, all it takes is a couple of mm inch difference in engineering and fabrications and you're out of luck. Visual can be deceiving.

Unless you tried it yourself, got your info from a reputable source, or have confirmed with the dealership, I would not make such an announcement...because, I'll be looking at the GC headlights intently for the price to come down, and when it don't work, I'll have every Compass owners come after you and dogpile you... hehehee

I'm also interested with the foglight chrome housing, post pics when they're installed...
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Are you ABSOLUTELY certain the GC HID housing will fit the Compass? I'm not concerned about the wiring but the exact fitting. Visual comparison between the two housing looks identical...but, all it takes is a couple of mm inch difference in engineering and fabrications and you're out of luck. Visual can be deceiving.

Unless you tried it yourself, got your info from a reputable source, or have confirmed with the dealership, I would not make such an announcement...because, I'll be looking at the GC headlights intently for the price to come down, and when it don't work, I'll have every Compass owners come after you and dogpile you... hehehee

I'm also interested with the foglight chrome housing, post pics when they're installed...
No, I'm not sure. Whoever does it first will be taking a slight risk.

I have eyeballed the mounting of the GC vs Compass headlights, including feeling underneath with my hand, and they seem identical.

Also, if you use a site like Mopar Parts Catalog and browse the 2011 GC and the 2011 Compass down into Electrical->Chassis Electrical->Headlamps->Composite Headlamps you'll see both the GC and Compass headlamps run $315, suggesting they're very similar, though I wish it gave part #'s.

Yes I can't wait to get my foglight housings back. At only $16 for the factory pair doing this mod just depends on finding a local shop that won't charge you too much.
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Also, if you use a site like Mopar Parts Catalog and browse the 2011 GC and the 2011 Compass down into Electrical->Chassis Electrical->Headlamps->Composite Headlamps you'll see both the GC and Compass headlamps run $315, suggesting they're very similar, though I wish it gave part #'s.
i gave part numbers earlier in the thread. both the retail prices and the part numbers for the headlights are different between the grand cherokee and the compass. i've looked at them both on my lot and can't see a difference. however, much of the headlight on the grand cherokee is hidden behind a plastic cover and i cannot see as much of it as i can on the compass.
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