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post #1 of 17 Old 11-18-2016, 06:01 PM Thread Starter
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Angry 09 subframe rustout- same as '07 and not covered

So the same problem that they had with the '07's, exactly the same problem, and they won't cover me for my '09. My subframe rusted, just like this described in this Service Bulletin NUMBER: 23-012-14

I've been a mopar guy all my life, as was my Dad, but they're losing me.

This is a serious safety defect, that my dealer is seeing a few every week, yet we all walk out with the charge on our dime for a defective product.

09 PATRIOT
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97 STRATUS
92 VOYAGER
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You all need to report this to the countrys Saftety regulator. They may force a recall for this since Jeep is not stepping up to address the platform problem.

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I talked to an owner of an 09 Calibre which rotted out as well while at a Jeep Dealer. Apparently he got the go ahead for the replacement with a high millage as well.

I watched a Youtube video of the sub frame replacement. There was water coming out of the inner area. That must the be reason they're rusting so back as its not drain out where ever it gets in from. I am having mine Krown sprayed next week with a focus in it as well but if water gets inside the frame it will rot despite all efforts to stop it.

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The 09 Calibre owner got a replacement on Jeep's dime?
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The 09 Calibre owner got a replacement on Jeep's dime?
Yeap, I heard the service advisor talking to the owner. Just needed to sign a waiver of any further claim or such. I talked to the owner outside being interested in the issue!! He said it was a 2009 with > 300k on it and his oil pan had already rusted out as well. Mine is but I caught it and painted it after cleaning most of the rust away. Its still holding having change the oil this week.

I had my Compass Krown sprayed and asked for super attention to that cross subframe. I see its is rusting but knowone can do much if the water is rusting it out from the inside cavity as it seems from a video I saw. Poor engineering of it as well as materials. Its not purely a salt belt issue although salt does attack exposed steel faster. One could also claim salt water from coastal locations as well.

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post #6 of 17 Old 12-02-2016, 03:10 PM
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I would just start calling head office and shooting off like a crazy person until they agree. Obviously start off calmly first and give them your history with the brand and whatever and then when they start shutting you down, open the gates of hell and go ham.

Unfortunately that is something that you can't really do anything to stop, but you can try to slow it down
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Class Action Suit

Chrysler will NOT honour the 10 year extended warranty on subframe. I have a 2007 Compass in which the crossmembers (basically the entire underbelly of the car) are prone to EARLY and SEVERE rust/corrosion. Also on the 2007 Patriots. Chrysler refuses to replace them until there is a hole or they fall off. I had to insist that the dealer put it up on the hoist so that I could show him a hole. The rear crossmember is going to rot through any time and could fall off at that point causing an accident and even death. Then they will fix it. It is a waiting game. They won't fix it until it rusts all the way through, but when it does you could be on the highway when falls off! Please share this with as many people as you can; especially anyone owning a 2007 Jeep Compass or Patriot.
I urge anyone else with this problem to consider joining me in pursuing a class action suit.
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post #9 of 17 Old 02-02-2017, 02:25 PM
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Didn't work.
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Wonder if there's a clause in the warranty contract stating just how bad a problem needs to be before they honor the warranty.
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post #11 of 17 Old 05-26-2018, 06:50 PM
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My son's 2008 patriot is having the same problem. The front crossmember is rotted out. The A/C drips right on it.... it's poorly designed... it's obviously not user abuse when the A/C they put on it drip directly down on to the crossmember. you can't fake a design flaw and they can't deny it... I called the 1-800-chrysler number and I got the "there hasn't been a recall issued"... well they better soon because it's obviously a huge issue directly resulting from their design.

Only 111000 miles and 10 years old. I'm about to blow up social media and show people why they
#1 should never buy a chrysler product and
#2 their lack of interest in fixing the issue for people.... it won't take long before they do something about it when they can't sell a new or used one.
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post #12 of 17 Old 12-28-2018, 11:16 AM
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DO It! 2009 Jeep Compass thrown thousands of dollar into my front end the past 4-5 years lowre control arms, bearings, sway bar links. They told me a year ago about the rust and said mine was rusty but not "holes" in it yet. I said what. Took it in major clunking they said a hole is through it and will replace. I have to cover sway bar links... which I dont think is right. But its $200. Does anyone have bettter luck with front end after the subframe was replaced and more stable? Or should I offload now?
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post #13 of 17 Old 12-28-2018, 11:18 AM
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Looko at your manufacturer date. Its doesnt matter the year an RUSTED SUB FRAME 9-10-11 years old is BS! Call jeep cares.. I am printing out a history of all the work I have ever done and sending it to them to be reimbursed.
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I didn't have a problem with my '08 Patriot that crossed 250,000 miles and survived 10 NH winters. AYK, the Patriot and Compass are sister vehicles built on the same platform. Only some Compass/Patriots had this problem. As I understand it FCA extended the warranty for the original owner to 10 years. If you're the second owner or past 10 years you're probably OOL. Anything will rust after awhile.

Again, no personal experience here, but from what I've seen the rust can be repaired and may not be as expensive as an engine or a tranny. In most cases its probably worth the repair.
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Not called recall. They will call it the rust corrosion warranty. Call it. This when talking to people
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I live in lower Michigan and have an '08 Compass Sport FWD that had about 145k+ miles on it (and was in mint shape in all ways except the subframes) when FCA replaced BOTH the front and back sub-frames back in the spring of 2016.

I initially was able to negotiate the splitting of the costs at the time of the repair, and then ultimately I was able to get EVERY DIME back when an official (now expired) recall was announced in early '17. All I had to do was submit the paperwork for the portion of the repairs that I had paid for, and FCA cut me a check.

Defintely a PITA - but at the end of it all, I was treated right. Esp. WAAAAYYYY better than Ford (my brand growing up and in young adulthood) would have ever treated me under the same circumstances!

Since my Compass is one of the "Lifetime Powertrain Warranty" editions from '08, AND I'm the original owner - I'm thinking that I'll be eventually talking to the warranty specialists again at some point. Little does FCA know that I kept my last truck for 23 years!

Btw - I had to have a whole new CVT put in on their dime too - at 75k miles. Again - nothing out-of-pocket for me at that point! *CHA-CHING*!

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I live in lower Michigan and have an '08 Compass Sport FWD that had about 145k+ miles on it (and was in mint shape in all ways except the subframes) when FCA replaced BOTH the front and back sub-frames back in the spring of 2016.

I initially was able to negotiate the splitting of the costs at the time of the repair, and then ultimately I was able to get EVERY DIME back when an official (now expired) recall was announced in early '17. All I had to do was submit the paperwork for the portion of the repairs that I had paid for, and FCA cut me a check.

Defintely a PITA - but at the end of it all, I was treated right. Esp. WAAAAYYYY better than Ford (my brand growing up and in young adulthood) would have ever treated me under the same circumstances!

Since my Compass is one of the "Lifetime Powertrain Warranty" editions from '08, AND I'm the original owner - I'm thinking that I'll be eventually talking to the warranty specialists again at some point. Little does FCA know that I kept my last truck for 23 years!

Btw - I had to have a whole new CVT put in on their dime too - at 75k miles. Again - nothing out-of-pocket for me at that point! *CHA-CHING*!

-CSM

I had a similar experience paying for a failed e-brake. Chrysler later reimbursed me for what I'd had done at a non-Jeep shop.

Ditto the transmission in my 2008 Patriot. Replaced under warranty at 110,000 miles and again at 275,000 miles. No hassle, they just took care of it and gave me a loaner to use while it was in for repairs.
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