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07-01-2019 05:39 PM
DarrenDriven
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Originally Posted by TheeCleve View Post
This looks awesome, I put 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk wheels on my limited and the plan is to add Trailhawk bumpers / tow hooks, plus a 2 inch lift and Eibach springs for additional inch, plus wheel spacers and I’m hoping I can get 245/65-17 tires on it ... will look bad a$$ as a Trailhawk Limited Model (prob adding hood decal too)
Looks really nice! I love the white/black two-tone Compass and those wheels look super clean on it. Looking forward to the rest of the transformation!
07-01-2019 04:43 PM
Tripod
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Originally Posted by TheeCleve View Post
We can agree to disagree, but this is false, I worked for 2 decades in the collision repair industry. the rear bumper (lower half) is the only thing that’s different, and if your Compass has the tow package, the reinforcement is exactly the same no matter the model, even the spot for the tow hook is there.


Now the front is different, you have to get different reinforcement, upper and lower bumpers PLUS the upper has to be painted as well as you have to get the lower grille and order both upper / lower bumpers as well as lower grille based on options for your vehicle ... this can be done, the rear being the less painful of the two.

I already have the rear tow hook bought, and will be buying the lower rear bumper fascia and installing it ... not for a few weeks but when I do I’ll be posting before and after pics.


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I was talking about the front, which is different. Of course it can be done, the thing to consider is will it cost less than getting the TH from the start. I am pretty sure it wont.
07-01-2019 03:38 PM
TheeCleve
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Originally Posted by Tripod View Post
Adding TH bumpers might be too much of an effort. Underlying facia and how the bumper connects to it are different between the two trims. So you would need to trip down the car all the way to the chassis and change everything. It would probably cost less to get the TH from the start.


We can agree to disagree, but this is false, I worked for 2 decades in the collision repair industry. the rear bumper (lower half) is the only thing thatís different, and if your Compass has the tow package, the reinforcement is exactly the same no matter the model, even the spot for the tow hook is there.


Now the front is different, you have to get different reinforcement, upper and lower bumpers PLUS the upper has to be painted as well as you have to get the lower grille and order both upper / lower bumpers as well as lower grille based on options for your vehicle ... this can be done, the rear being the less painful of the two.

I already have the rear tow hook bought, and will be buying the lower rear bumper fascia and installing it ... not for a few weeks but when I do Iíll be posting before and after pics.


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06-30-2019 05:12 PM
Tripod
Wrangler JKU Wheels w/ 235/65-R17 Tires

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06-30-2019 05:11 PM
Tripod
Wrangler JKU Wheels w/ 235/65-R17 Tires

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheeCleve View Post
This looks awesome, I put 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk wheels on my limited and the plan is to add Trailhawk bumpers / tow hooks, plus a 2 inch lift and Eibach springs for additional inch, plus wheel spacers and Iím hoping I can get 245/65-17 tires on it ... will look bad a$$ as a Trailhawk Limited Model (prob adding hood decal too)


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Adding TH bumpers might be too much of an effort. Underlying facia and how the bumper connects to it are different between the two trims. So you would need to trip down the car all the way to the chassis and change everything. It would probably cost less to get the TH from the start.
06-30-2019 09:09 AM
TheeCleve
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Originally Posted by DarrenDriven View Post
Wanted to share with you our 2017 Compass wearing 17" Wrangler wheels and 235-65-R17 tires.



We used 20mm wheel spacers that are also adapters from 5x110mm to 5x5"/5x127mm.

(forum won't let me post a link, search item #172533521391 on eBay)



The wheels came from our other Jeep, a 2017 Wrangler JKU Big Bear.


This looks awesome, I put 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk wheels on my limited and the plan is to add Trailhawk bumpers / tow hooks, plus a 2 inch lift and Eibach springs for additional inch, plus wheel spacers and Iím hoping I can get 245/65-17 tires on it ... will look bad a$$ as a Trailhawk Limited Model (prob adding hood decal too)


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06-28-2019 02:43 PM
arudlang Awesome, if my wife and I get stuck in snoqualmie pass around christmas time trying to visit our family, going to call on you two for our rescue team
06-28-2019 12:53 PM
DarrenDriven
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Originally Posted by Tripod View Post
...I tend to avoid Snoqualmie and use one of the other passes (like the white pass, or once even through the Columbia river gorge). The reason is the risk of getting stuck, each year some people get stuck there and I am sure it is not a pleasant experience .
Portland OR/Seattle WA here... all the same routes apply.
06-27-2019 09:33 PM
Tripod
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Originally Posted by arudlang View Post
Agreed. The whole conversation just reminds me of how risky chains can be, period. Average people don't ever use them here in MN but we did have a set on our city plow truck that came loose or broke and it really tore up the fender and everything within reach.

I still go back to the discussion at https://www.myjeepcompass.com/forums...trailhawk.html to reference and these days my conclusion is pretty much that genuine "tire chains" are just completely out of the question for us on our jeep. If I head to Washington this winter I'll have to have some of those autosocks or michelin's easy grips on hand and that will be about the best I can offer to the highway patrol if we get into a "chains required" situation.

Obviously I will also be driving on the newest and best tires I have, if I venture out that way. My wallet will likely demand I use the stock falken wildpeak H/Ts that came on those rims Jim sold me. My original conti procontact TX are just about down to the wear bears now but I am running them through the summer. Had a bit of hydroplaning on the wet drive to work today on the 4 lane, not much fun.
I drove through Snoqualmie pass @ Washington state this winter year several times. Once during a considerably heavy snowstorm and several others with snow on the road. They had the "chains requires on all except 4wd vehicles" warning. I bought the autosocks just in case, but didnt need to use it. I have seen some people using autosocks on 2wd cars though. Lucky Washington is a state that excepts these as traction devices.


Through the years, I have only seen "chains required on all vehicles" warnings in the most extreme conditions (and all were nights except one terrible day). The issue with Snoqualmie is how intense the snowfall can become, it is one of the snowiest places on the lower 48 locations . It can get snowfall rates close to 3-5 inches per hour (and 35 inches in 24H) and therefore, if the traffic stops for an accident or something, it turns into a mess due to the rapid accumulation of snow and the inability to plow the roads. Plus it is a highway with considerably long and steep ramps (particularly the west bound road that heads to Seattle), has a lot of traffic and prone to avalanches. Generally speaking, when there is a "chains required on all vehicles" warnings, I tend to avoid Snoqualmie and use one of the other passes (like the white pass, or once even through the Columbia river gorge). The reason is the risk of getting stuck, each year some people get stuck there and I am sure it is not a pleasant experience .
06-27-2019 08:55 PM
arudlang
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Originally Posted by Tripod
I think the issue is the very little clearance with the suspension (at least that is what the manual says). If the chain flexes for some reason (like if you spin the tires too fast, drive too fast or if one ring or so breaks), it can get caught up in the suspension and rip it apart.

A very tight, high quality chain would probably be okay. But I would still be very nervous using it. Even if your chain doesn't fail, there is a chance that someones elses fail and get entangled in your chain.
Agreed. The whole conversation just reminds me of how risky chains can be, period. Average people don't ever use them here in MN but we did have a set on our city plow truck that came loose or broke and it really tore up the fender and everything within reach.

I still go back to the discussion at https://www.myjeepcompass.com/forums...trailhawk.html to reference and these days my conclusion is pretty much that genuine "tire chains" are just completely out of the question for us on our jeep. If I head to Washington this winter I'll have to have some of those autosocks or michelin's easy grips on hand and that will be about the best I can offer to the highway patrol if we get into a "chains required" situation.

Obviously I will also be driving on the newest and best tires I have, if I venture out that way. My wallet will likely demand I use the stock falken wildpeak H/Ts that came on those rims Jim sold me. My original conti procontact TX are just about down to the wear bears now but I am running them through the summer. Had a bit of hydroplaning on the wet drive to work today on the 4 lane, not much fun.
06-27-2019 07:27 PM
DarrenDriven
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Originally Posted by Tripod View Post
You cant put on regular chains with 17+ inch stock tires either. You need specific low profile traction device.

Only 16 inch rims can put on regular chains.
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Originally Posted by arudlang View Post
Thats what the book says, anyways. Obviously its not so much the rim diameter but the stock 16s have the smallest and most narrow tire IIRC.

I feel like with good fitting chains I could get by on the clearance shown in my photos and I have the 225/55R18 on 18x7 rims.
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Originally Posted by Tripod View Post
I think the issue is the very little clearance with the suspension (at least that is what the manual says). If the chain flexes for some reason (like if you spin the tires too fast, drive too fast or if one ring or so breaks), it can get caught up in the suspension and rip it apart.

A very tight, high quality chain would probably be okay. But I would still be very nervous using it. Even if your chain doesn't fail, there is a chance that someones elses fail and get entangled in your chain. I had several instances with my grand Cherokee where I run over some broken pieces of chain (most likely those large semi-truck trailer chains) that was buried under snow and it got entangled to my chain on the tire. if something like that happens with the compass, it will either break the chain or the suspension spring.
Ouch. I didn't realize that. I went through the trouble of swapping the stock wheels back on for a wintry drive across a frozen mountain pass. Chains were in the trunk. I assumed I was all set... good thing I didn't need them! I should have just left the Wrangler wheels on it!
06-27-2019 07:25 PM
DarrenDriven
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Originally Posted by 84z28 View Post
Best thing to do would have been buying the correct rims , buying junk wheels adapters is just asking for trouble. When the Chinese studs break, wheel bearing starts to howl you're gonna be kicking yourself
1. The wheels were free, as I just removed them from my brand new 2017 Wrangler.

2. The Compass is a lease so we aren't worried about the wheel bearings.

3. I paid a little more for quality wheel spacers/bolt adapters so that we wouldn't have quality problems down the road.
06-27-2019 05:40 PM
Tripod
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Originally Posted by arudlang View Post
Thats what the book says, anyways. Obviously its not so much the rim diameter but the stock 16s have the smallest and most narrow tire IIRC.

I feel like with good fitting chains I could get by on the clearance shown in my photos and I have the 225/55R18 on 18x7 rims.
I think the issue is the very little clearance with the suspension (at least that is what the manual says). If the chain flexes for some reason (like if you spin the tires too fast, drive too fast or if one ring or so breaks), it can get caught up in the suspension and rip it apart.

A very tight, high quality chain would probably be okay. But I would still be very nervous using it. Even if your chain doesn't fail, there is a chance that someones elses fail and get entangled in your chain. I had several instances with my grand Cherokee where I run over some broken pieces of chain (most likely those large semi-truck trailer chains) that was buried under snow and it got entangled to my chain on the tire. if something like that happens with the compass, it will either break the chain or the suspension spring.
06-27-2019 12:26 PM
arudlang
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripod
You cant put on regular chains with 17+ inch stock tires either. You need specific low profile traction device.

Only 16 inch rims can put on regular chains.
Thats what the book says, anyways. Obviously its not so much the rim diameter but the stock 16s have the smallest and most narrow tire IIRC.

I feel like with good fitting chains I could get by on the clearance shown in my photos and I have the 225/55R18 on 18x7 rims.
06-26-2019 05:02 PM
Tripod
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Originally Posted by DarrenDriven View Post
Here ya go.

Over the winter we had to swap back on the stock wheel/tire combo for a few days just in case chains were needed. There's no way chains would fit with these larger wheels and tires.
You cant put on regular chains with 17+ inch stock tires either. You need specific low profile traction device.

Only 16 inch rims can put on regular chains.
06-26-2019 03:54 PM
84z28 Best thing to do would have been buying the correct rims , buying junk wheels adapters is just asking for trouble. When the Chinese studs break, wheel bearing starts to howl you're gonna be kicking yourself
06-26-2019 03:12 PM
DarrenDriven Here ya go.

The tires are Hercules Terra Trac ATII.

There is slight rubbing on the splash guard fore and aft at full lock when the suspension is compressed (AKA going up a steep droiveway, etc) but not enough to even damage the splash guard. There is only a fraction of an inch of clearance between the tire and the spring perch.

Over the winter we had to swap back on the stock wheel/tire combo for a few days just in case chains were needed. There's no way chains would fit with these larger wheels and tires.
06-25-2019 04:49 PM
arudlang It does look good. If you have time could you post some close ups showing the clearances of the tight bits like the front of the rear fender liner and the front wheel spring perch? Shots kinda like these ones I took with our stock tires, would like to compare. Don't mind the cardboard that was me testing for S-class tire chain clearance (which we don't technically have even with the stock tires).

Driver's Side rear tire:




Front Tire:


06-25-2019 01:37 PM
WisHawk Looks Great What kind of tires on Compass.
Here is a pic of our Wrangler
06-24-2019 08:12 PM
MiJeepGuy That looks awesome!
06-24-2019 01:54 PM
DarrenDriven
Wrangler JKU Wheels w/ 235/65-R17 Tires

Wanted to share with you our 2017 Compass wearing 17" Wrangler wheels and 235-65-R17 tires.

We used 20mm wheel spacers that are also adapters from 5x110mm to 5x5"/5x127mm.
(forum won't let me post a link, search item #172533521391 on eBay)

The wheels came from our other Jeep, a 2017 Wrangler JKU Big Bear.

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