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|12-19-2011 03:48 AM|
Two pulleys and a steel belt. No thank you.
Although I like the 2011 Compass that I rented for a week. Give me a normal 5 or 6 speed automatic transmission. I won't be plunking down that much cash for a snowmobile tranny. Won't be buying a Nissan either.
|10-24-2011 12:28 AM|
|jeepguy2010||The only thing I don't like it that it doesn't have any holding power on an incline, other wise I like it.|
|10-23-2011 08:32 AM|
I have a 2011 Compass with FD II CVT and am not impressed
I find the fuel economy to be terrible i just got 360 km on my last tank of city driving, at 100km i am at like 2500rpm and 120km im at 3200 rpm.
Is this normal for a FD II?
|01-04-2011 04:18 PM|
|gatormom||When we purchased the Compass, I would have preferred a manual, but one wasn't available. In hindsight, I'm glad that we got the CVT, because my left knee was injured in a work injury 5 years ago and flares up on me occasionally ( I will eventually need a knee replacement). Most of my driving is in town, lots of stop and go driving, so for that driving, and with my knee, the That said, with winter weather here, I am getting alot of use for the auto stick. In inclement weather, when the roads are snowy or slick, I will drive in auto stick mode, and feel that I have better control, and are safer on my commute. So with my manual transmission days behind me, I feel that the CVT with the auto stick option is the best of both worlds for me.|
|01-01-2011 10:58 PM|
|tripplec||I don't find it gutless myself. I do find the quick adjustment of the CVT to throttle maintaining torque positive. However, the gas milllage is pretty bad given the size of the engine and weight of the vehicle. On the highway it is knowwhere near the advertised MPG and pretty bad. If you are looking for a economical gas vehicle this is not it. Period!! It can really drink the gas at higher speed and my Grand Cherokee gets about the same at 120km/hr highway, yeah the same so where is the economy!!|
|01-01-2011 07:14 PM|
|Yeppers||My Jeep update: Owned just over 4 months with 14000 miles on the odometer. Other than the sorry gutless launch I like the CVT. Once it gets rolling she accelerates and passes fine for a 4 cylinder. Averages 24 plus mpg. I didn't buy it for power but for a compromise between economy and utility.|
|08-18-2010 12:45 PM|
It did not have the towing package and I say in a right up the installation for the kit. It replaces upper rad hose, engine oil spacer with some line running from and CVT are all routed through differently.
I have buddie in the hitch business and get all my hitches from him installed. I installed the cooler on my GC 2-3 years back now. But CVT is not a hydralic system, there is not oil pressure and its there primarily to lubricate the components. This builds up heat but not the same as a regular transmission.
|08-18-2010 04:22 AM|
LOL @ tripplec, I hear ya' on Murphy, I try to avoid him at all costs! As for the cooler, do you have the trailer tow package on yours or did you just add the hitch? You may have said this already and I just couldn't find it, but if you do, the cooler is standard. If you don't, then no, it's not. I don't think the CVT actually needs a cooler just under normal driving conditions, but for any towing, definitely a necessity.
|08-17-2010 06:26 PM|
Originally Posted by Skyeye View Post
|08-13-2010 04:31 PM|
|Skyeye||ya see, what you gotta remember is the Compass is not a high end big engine head snapper from the get go! This vehicle was made to be an easy handling,fuel stingy crossover ride. It's not ever going to perform like a rocket sled. It's not designed for a power lust driver.|
|08-13-2010 03:14 PM|
|Yeppers||Um, I don't think I do. It reminds me of a slipping auto trans with all the varying engine revs. That and the fact that it make for slug off the line. I came from a V8 4 runner so that might be part of the problem, it just feels so slow and feeble under acceleration. Maybe I'll get used to it, it is just 2.4 litre after all.|
|03-31-2010 03:43 AM|
I just talked to a transmission mechanic of over 30 years experience and he tells me that the biggest thing that causes trouble with these CVT units is the wearing out of the sheaves on the pulleys. The belt is stainless steel and can stretch a bit but it is not the major cause of trouble. He told me the one that Jeep installs is one of the best models.
For those who don't know how they work, here is a good explanation. The one that Jeep uses is shown first.
|03-31-2010 01:19 AM|
ok, having read this thread.
- so far I like it having driven it on the highway and town for over 150km
- I like the load sensing going up a long but noteworthy grade which is holds the same speed nicely. I have NOT done much with the slap shift other then see how it works.
- the drag or braking when you let off the accelerator is not the best for economy (does not coast) in my opinion but engine braking can be helpful in slippery situations.
Functionally is the same application as a snowmobile drive system which uses a rubber corded belt with a drive clutch on the engine shaft and transfer clutch on the driving end. The snowmobile system runs in the open air and apart from the main clutch it fairly simple principle with total variable ratios. In the Compass and other CVT we have steel belt but after some research and reading it is in some oil environment. I did ask the dealer once and I was told they are a sealed unit and designed to just be swapped out with a new one and not repaired. Life is suppose to be around 140,000km, I hope mine last longer. Maybe some shops will figure out how to repair them. For the meantime its as swap in section. I don't have more info on it at this time but noted from the manual that if it's over heated the engine will be slowed down to allow it to cool somewhat. Various other safeguard also exist to protect it exist.
It been around for a number of years and I hope the have the reliability up otherwise a large number will be in line for warranty replacement by Chrysler.
|02-02-2010 01:49 AM|
Originally Posted by hot_racer_dude View Post
|01-27-2010 04:16 PM|
|08Compass||08 Compass 28000 miles-wrote in another post mine jumped, the dealership flushed it, changed the filter and it runs great. MPG is better too, back in the low 20s. Overall I like the highway acceleration, still think it sucks going up or down anything steep.|
|01-09-2010 07:03 PM|
I have had my Compass only a few days and think the CVT is fantastic! I have owned many cars with automatic transmissions over the past 40 years and none of them put power to the drivetrain as smooth as the CVT. Sure the increased noise is a PITA but a relatively small one considering the enhanced dynamics and fuel savings for this kind of transmission. Only used the slapstick once to see how it worked. Daun heah en da deap sauth everything is flat and there's really no need to use the Slap a lot. I find the normal passing range selected by the CVT more than enough for most situations.
Here's a nice video (sorry, asian subtitles) explaining the Jatco trans which is the one the Compass uses.
Sorry again, can't post the URL yet cause I'm still a greenhorn. Anyway just google Jatco.
|12-04-2009 03:49 AM|
Originally Posted by tinkerbelle View Post
|11-30-2009 01:20 AM|
|hot_racer_dude||has anyone ever went fast in the compass? i finally after thinking about it realized that i had never went over 80, so the other day i got it up to 104.. well needless to say i smelt buring rubber... so now i dont think so much of the cvt, i custom made a trailor hitch the looks amazing, but like i said now im scared to pull with it...|
|10-21-2009 12:59 AM|
|Compassed||CVT all the way|
|08-23-2009 02:03 AM|
|COMPASSDL||Yes. I also like to downshift coming to a traffic light.|
|08-14-2009 09:53 PM|
|umpire410||I have the 5-speed and it provides all the power I need. However, rpms flatten out in 1st gear over 20m/hr.|
|08-14-2009 03:35 PM|
|CompassLimited||I like the CVT. I have found that for me the best way to accelerate is to just squeeeeze on the gas adding more as you pick up speed. Probably use less gas that way too. Smooth shifts. Would like to see what a CVT would do hooked to a hemi.|
|08-14-2009 02:56 PM|
|BigDaveSCB||I would have preferred the 5 speed, but Cash for Clunkers cleared those out first. I was hesitant to even look at an automatic (I really prefer 5 speeds), but after I drove it and goofed around with the Auto Stick, I was OK buying one with the CVT. It's nice to use the Auto Stick to downshift and get extra power for passing\ when you need it.|
|08-14-2009 11:43 AM|
It, like an automatic transmission, is NO replacement for the GREAT 5-speed transmission that comes standard, no extra charge.
Would NEVER pay to take away the fun of PLAY.
|08-14-2009 05:54 AM|
|segura15||At first I did not like the CVT very much because of the noise, but I have gotten used to it and the radio can easily drown it out and now I think its awesome and I only have had my compass for about a week. Didn't take long to get used to it.|
|06-06-2009 03:55 AM|
|Jeepster2||Bump for an old thread. Use the Auto Stick when you need to pass, or get over a hill. Most(all) new vehicles have some road noise, but I don't find the Compass to be excessive. The CVT takes some "getting used to", so let's see how well these things hold out over time.. Has anyone rebuilt a CVT yet?|
|07-23-2008 05:25 PM|
Re: Do you like the CVT Transmission?
Nice and smooth over here. Performs well enough to scoot around town. Only thing I don't like is when I drive it (as I do when i drive most cars) I ride with my right hand on the shifter, sometimes I accidentally switch it into autostick mode. Wife drives at 10 and 2 so no problems for her.
|07-22-2008 12:06 PM|
Re: Do you like the CVT Transmission?
I enjoy the ease of driving with the CVT. If I want to pass someone, I just click down a gear...
|07-19-2008 11:47 PM|
Re: Do you like the CVT Transmission?
|06-26-2008 12:11 AM|
Originally Posted by JoJoJeep
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