[Tehshewz]

Hello,

Im getting ready to do an oil change on my 2.4 2018 and ive been looking around online about the 0w-20 and some common discussion of others running i thicker oil. Common recommendations are 5w-20 and 5w30.

Anyone have experience or any feedback of using other weights other then this very thin 0w20 that's recommended from factory?

 

[[email protected]]

Hello,

Im getting ready to do an oil change on my 2.4 2018 and ive been looking around online about the 0w-20 and some common discussion of others running i thicker oil. Common recommendations are 5w-20 and 5w30.

Anyone have experience or any feedback of using other weights other then this very thin 0w20 that's recommended from factory?

Four things...
1) I use Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic 0W-20. Meets Chrysler/Jeep Specs
2) Many of the internal engine parts are lubricated/cooled by a fine oil spray, not squirted. Heavier oil may not spray properly.
3) I understand the valves are opened and closed by a column of oil, not a mechanical push rod.
4) Because of number 3, an oil/filter change requires 5-1/2 quarts of oil, not 5 quarts like other engines

 

[WisHawk]

I have been using 0W-20 Pennzoil Platinum since my Trailhawk was new. It uses no oil and leak no oil.
And I have done a lot of oil changes vehicle now ha 170,000 miles on it. I change the oil and filter every 5000 to 7500 miles. My 2 cents worth anyway.

 

[Kona coffee]

I alway like the Mobile One synthetic oils. Being using this Mobil one synthetic oil in all my vehicles since the seventies. ( over 40 years)

there are three grade of synthetic oils….Grade 3 is up to 7,000 miles before oil change
Grade 4 synthetic oil is up to 15,000 miles between oil changes. Grade 5 is up to 25,000 miles between oil changes. This is the only way for me to explain the grades of synthetic oils.
Purple oil is a grade 4 , Moble makes all three grades, Amsoil also makes a grade 5.
Also you will need a quality oil filter too.

but today all the top brands all will give you excellent results. Even the cheaper oils will give you great results with regular oil replacement services. The nice thing is synthetic oils can go longer between oil changes.

 

[Jasmine]

Ditto @[email protected]. Stick with the factory specs: 0w-20.

 

[WisHawk]

I would recommend anyone asking question or wanting to learn more about motor oil to go here.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/

There is a wealth of information. Makes sure to look into the links at the top of there home website.

 

[Kona coffee]

Thank you, that is a lot of material to read. Today many new cars all use synthetic oils which is a good thing.
The engines are more refine , reason for 0-20 weight. Nice thing oil changes are starting to be longer between miles. Old school every 3,000 miles, today many recommended at 10,000 miles.
Spark plugs today can last 100,000 miles

I remember reading a story long time ago, of a inventor who developed a 100,000 mile tire. A large tire manufacturer bought him out and his patent.

We will never see a 100,000 mile tires in our lifetime. All about the money and repeat business.
Engineers need to design products that can last for only a certain time, mileage, or wear out .

No money in making a product that last a life time.
Note :I once purchase a lifetime wind shield wipers. Lasted over 15 years. The triple blade was still excellent, the frame was plastic and fell apart. I still consider it to be the best wiper blades I ever had!
This was in the eighties for my 1986 4x4 Dodge Ram. I like the straight front axles. There was NO trail on the Big island of Hawaii that could stop this truck. Except for tight turns..lol

 

[mikes]

I remember reading a story long time ago, of a inventor who developed a 100,000 mile tire. A large tire manufacturer bought him out and his patent.

We will never see a 100,000 mile tires in our lifetime. All about the money and repeat business.
Engineers need to design products that can last for only a certain time, mileage, or wear out .

Yea, right. And the oil companies killed the 200 mpg carburetor back in the 1950's. They could make a 100K tire, but it would be harder rubber without good traction.

 

[Kona coffee]

There are great technology and great inventions discover . But man is greedy and do not want to see lifetime products or cheaper ,safer cheaper sweeteners. -( this is another story-was a great discovery- due to man greed ,will never see it).

 

[(M)Pm Me Your Accessories]

Yea, right. And the oil companies killed the 200 mpg carburetor back in the 1950's. They could make a 100K tire, but it would be harder rubber without good traction.

Hahaha, I've heard this story about the fabled magic carburetor, the perfect lossless combustion engine, the lightbulb that never dies, etc. etc. over the years too.

It's always told by somebody who's uncle lived in the same small town as the guy who invented it and was bought out, and it's always completely legitimate (trust me, bro!). And there's always some unknown sneaky bastard from a large, evil, company who bought them out and signed them to secrecy, never allowing the product to be made.

Is it possible that one or to these could be true, to a certain extent? Naturally. Is it also highly unlikely? Absolutely, for a number of reasons. If you're interested, take a look at the carnot cycle/engine, it's a neat theoretical description of a perfect cycle, and explains why it's not possible.

There are plenty of greedy people and even more shady companies out there, I can't argue with that. But there are also plenty of extremely intelligent people out there and companies pushing the boundaries of science and technology everyday. If one person can come up with it, another person will as well. A miraculous invention like any of those above will be a game changing one, and won't be kept under wraps for long.

Back to the oil question though, one thing I have noticed with their responses above is that nobody pointed out that you will also want to consider where you live and the types of temperatures/work the motor will see. I'm a Mobile 1 synthetic guy for most of my adult life like the gentleman above, and have never had a problem with it. Some of the best and most expensive cars on the planet run it, so it's always been good enough for my humble whips. As for viscosity (the two numbers you see listed for each oil have to do with the viscosity at low temperatures and high temperatures), I just go with whatever the dealership recommends in the area of the country I'm living in.

 

[mikes]

And, if it was "a long time ago", and they bought out the patent, then the patent is expired and now available for anyone to use. And the patent (all of which are public) has always been there to reference in support of the claim. Such proof never seems to accompany the claims.

 

[Kona coffee]

Thank you for your insights and thoughts.

 

[(M)Pm Me Your Accessories]

And, if it was "a long time ago", and they bought out the patent, then the patent is expired and now available for anyone to use. And the patent (all of which are public) has always been there to reference in support of the claim. Such proof never seems to accompany the claims.

Haha, fact! But the last thing a good story needs is evidence weighing it down 😅
There's more than enough shady shenanigans going on in our world on every given day, I can't say I understand feeling the need to manufacture new ones when the selection is already so ripe.