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Hi Everyone! My name is Sarah and I purchased my first Jeep earlier this year. I've always owned GM vehicles all my life, but am now driving a 2018 Jeep Compass Limited. I am unfortunately already having issues with it at 7,000 miles so I joined this forum in hopes to connect with other Jeep owners and help diagnose my problem!
 

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Welcome,

I have owned GM all my life as well, my last two vehicles were Saturns and they were great. I still have one GM, a Tahoe which is used for towing and not daily driving. I bought a Jeep Compass a few months ago because I am also one who likes to drive a manual and GM doesn't offer anything in SUV class for manuals.

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Hey guys, welcome and I'm new to Jeep also.
I'm almost 40 and have had every vehicle under the sun (love cars and bikes). :)
Have had 5 litre mustangs, BMW X3 and 330xi, Benz C300, GMC Sierra and Chevy S10, Honda Civic, Mazda 3, VW Jetta, and my most recent Dodge Ram. Pretty much all were good cars with little issues outside of the BMW's with their usual transfer case problems (but still amazing cars). Have had about 2 dozen bikes from superbike to KTM/Husky dirtbikes.

I'm in the exact same boat, Compass was not my first choice since I was hoping for something more high-end and more reliable, but I was wanting to buy a manual and in SUV format it is very rare.
So I settled on a lower end car that is not known for reliability (the previous generation compass was probably one of the worst cars made, will see how this one holds up). I was a little scared buying the 2019 compass that I have due to the not so good track record, but figured was my last attempt at a manual vehicle and justified that risk since not really any other options out there in SUV other then maybe Quasquai which was the absolute base-base model and would not get that.
Surprisingly I do really like the look of the car, with the front end being much nicer then the Cherokee with those narrow slit headlights I really don't like; the compass is nice and more like a baby Grand-Cherokee. :)
The tail of the compass is sexy too, and you can tell was really influenced (or copied lol) from the range rover and looks super sharp. Looks wise the compass can't be beat.
I wanted V6 but they would not offer it in the manual which is a huge disappointment also since the little 4 cylinder in this car does not feel adequate for pulling the weight of the SUV.
So far fuel consumption has been bad and getting worse it seems which is scaring me a little but hoping its just a symptom of the heavy SUV making the tiny 4 banger work so hard all the time and not some hidden issue. Have very low mileage only 2500km range but will see if gets better as the engine further breaks in.
I do love the layout of the SUV, good size and nice looking interior. Even the non-leather base seats have nice 2-tone stitching and fake rubberized material around the door and arm rests to give that leather type feel. Nice touch for a base interior.
The materials are as cheap as you can get, but many cars going this route with the whole limited resources left in this world but thats a whole other discussion :)
It is nice that it comes with a colour (few colours anyway) touch screen and blue tooth audio, all wheel drive, and the backup camera which none of the above I really wanted since more stuff to go wrong but nice to have anyway.
I have a factory hitch installed to tow around my dirtbike on a tiny little trailer ($1500 from dealer, yikes have done it myself for $200 but wanted to make sure all done by Chrysler to ensure warranty in-tact).
All in all I'm quite happy with the car other then the fact that it is probably by far the slowest vehicle I've owned and the worst on fuel consumption so far (but likely expected with the tiny engine in a bigger vehicle). Havent had many issues, the rear hatch handle fell off is the only thing so far which I don't care about my main concern will be mechanical.
My 2 kids (2 and 4) love the car, not as much as the X3 but they are pretty happy about the compass which is good since I mainly bought it for a family vehicle.
Its definitely nice to have the manual, might be the last I'll ever own since they are becoming obsolete which is quite sad. Maybe in a few years will have to try and find the most analog old school Porsche I can find in good shape with a 6 speed and keep that as a garage queen for as long as possible and watch the Tesla's and Leafs zip by silently. :)
Nice to be on the forum, hope to learn allot here and pass on anything that I find out and experience over the years with my Jeep Compass. First time jeep owner saying hi !!
Cheers!!
 

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I wanted V6 but they would not offer it in the manual
You've said this in two posts, so I thought I'd point out there are no V6 options for the Compass anywhere in the world in any trim level with any transmission. All four cylinders across the board. You'd have to step up to a Cherokee to get a V6.

Hi Everyone! My name is Sarah and I purchased my first Jeep earlier this year. I've always owned GM vehicles all my life, but am now driving a 2018 Jeep Compass Limited. I am unfortunately already having issues with it at 7,000 miles so I joined this forum in hopes to connect with other Jeep owners and help diagnose my problem!
Welcome! Sadly you are going to find yourself visiting the service department a lot in one of these and you will probably notice how the Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler service department is always very busy... I've come to find thats just part of the deal with this brand. In trade, you get something better priced that is super stylish and comfortable. My wife and I are OK with that, we are more focused on getting a better house than a better car for the time being.

Enjoy the good times when its working, it will work most of the time and look at it this way its not really any different than driving a ford except our cars aren't unreliable AND ugly, just unreliable! xD
 

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Hi Everyone! My name is Sarah and I purchased my first Jeep earlier this year. I've always owned GM vehicles all my life, but am now driving a 2018 Jeep Compass Limited. I am unfortunately already having issues with it at 7,000 miles so I joined this forum in hopes to connect with other Jeep owners and help diagnose my problem!
And those issues are . . .? We can't help unless we know what the problems are.

I should say Welcome! I hope the site is helpful.
 

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@CanadaEastKTM, what kind of fuel economy are you getting? My 9-spd AT is delivering 30+MPG overall, and deep into the 30s on a long trip. I would expect a manual to do even better.

No-o, its not a fast vehicle, but it's not nearly the slowest vehicle I've ever owned. Do consider, this is a tiny engine w/o a turbo to help it. Its putting out better than 1HP/CID which is pretty darn good.
 

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Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the warm welcome. I figured I would introduce myself before I unload my problems. I previously drove larger SUV's over the years prior to the Compass, but I'm getting used to it. I just miss the trunk space.

I joined this forum to see if I can get some insight on a clicking noise I've been experiencing in the front end for at least the past few thousand miles. I've had it into the shop twice now without resolution and am dropping it off again next week. It's staying there until they fix it. I don't have time to waste.

The dealer insisted that it was the power steering during my first visit and it's a normal sound for all vehicles. Now I'm no mechanic, but I have never owned a vehicle nor driven in one that has a loud clicking sound during low speed turns and breaking. After sitting there for a few hours telling me they have no idea what I'm talking about, I finally had them hop in the car for a ride around the parking lot.

The noise appeared right away and they were stumped. A few days ago, they installed new callipers, brackets and pins. I didn't hear the issue leaving the parking lot, but it was also raining and there was lots of traffic noise. By the time I arrived home 30 minutes later, it was quite obvious that my issue was not fixed. The sad part is when I arrived at the dealer to have these parts installed, they said they had another Compass with the same issue earlier in the day, but they didn't tell the customer about the noise they heard and let her leave. That doesn't make me feel too good. Has anyone else experienced this issue?

Thank you.

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We need a little more info about the clicking. Is it rhythmic with the turning of the tires? Does it happen only when you turn the steering wheel? Is it high pitched metallic or a clunking noise?

Don't fall for the "its normal" routine. Like you I've owned plenty of vehicles with power steering and none made a clicking noise. For that matter I've owned a 2018 Compass and presently own a 2019 Compass and neither makes clicking noises.

A 2018 is new enough you should be under warranty. You are wise to insist on them fixing it.

If the dealer can't fix it, try another Jeep dealer. If a second dealer can't fix it, reach out to JeepCares on this website. Since you're not the only one with this problem (Your dealer said he had another but didn't do anything about it) FCA may make a "star case" out of it and maybe a solution will be found.
 

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Jasmine said:
Its putting out better than 1HP/CID which is pretty darn good.
Sure and you mention that a lot but like, I think we have to take into account that we are often discussing the absolute maximum PEAK advertised horsepower it can make on its BEST day at sea level, and the fact that it has to wind up to ~6400 RPM to reach that peak, and although I can't find a dynograph for this particular engine anywhere I'd wager its a sharp climb the last 2000 RPMs to that peak as thats about the point at which the ECU suddenly realizes you really want "every drop" of power and makes the most of its ability to tweak the lift, duration, and timing to do it.

Engineers and marketing teams know people get easily hung up on peak advertised numbers so they say "Well fine, we can string this poor thing out to make a big number near the redline. Nobody is hardly ever going to use it, and it won't make anywhere close to that power in the normal operating range, but with the fancy tricks of the multiair system we can squeeze out a big number at an ungodly RPM that nobody hardly touches three times in the entire life of owning the car, sure, for the marketing ads."

Just about none of us are going to rev past 4500 in our day-to-day driving, so the real "max" horsepower we are typically ever using for regular driving is nowhere near 180 HP, probably roughly 140 or 145 for normal driving around acceleration (if we're lucky).

This effect is consistent with pretty much all N/A gas engines so a dude driving a 300 HP car also isn't using a full 300 HP every day to go to work and back, but his power at 4500 is probably still 100 HP more than ours at the same RPM so still feels noticeably faster than something like our car.

Not to mention the losses at high altitude, which we certainly noticed on our recent road trip through the rockies and the cascades, we were climbing hills at 3400 probably making a whopping 85 HP ... but thats the deal. You can't use 6000+ RPMs every day on every hill, the little thing will blow up. That's actually what happened to my aunt's 2.4 Cherokee last year, they live in the mountains in Virginia and after not quite two years of mountain torture treatment it gave up the ghost. She was quite merciless with that motor on the switchbacks and hill climbs.
 

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Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the warm welcome. I figured I would introduce myself before I unload my problems. I previously drove larger SUV's over the years prior to the Compass, but I'm getting used to it. I just miss the trunk space.

I joined this forum to see if I can get some insight on a clicking noise I've been experiencing in the front end for at least the past few thousand miles. I've had it into the shop twice now without resolution and am dropping it off again next week. It's staying there until they fix it. I don't have time to waste.

The dealer insisted that it was the power steering during my first visit and it's a normal sound for all vehicles. Now I'm no mechanic, but I have never owned a vehicle nor driven in one that has a loud clicking sound during low speed turns and breaking. After sitting there for a few hours telling me they have no idea what I'm talking about, I finally had them hop in the car for a ride around the parking lot.

The noise appeared right away and they were stumped. A few days ago, they installed new callipers, brackets and pins. I didn't hear the issue leaving the parking lot, but it was also raining and there was lots of traffic noise. By the time I arrived home 30 minutes later, it was quite obvious that my issue was not fixed. The sad part is when I arrived at the dealer to have these parts installed, they said they had another Compass with the same issue earlier in the day, but they didn't tell the customer about the noise they heard and let her leave. That doesn't make me feel too good. Has anyone else experienced this issue?

Thank you.

Sarah
Hi Sarah,
We're sorry to hear about your experience. If you would like any additional assistance while working with your dealer towards a resolution, we would be happy to connect you with a case specialist! Our team is available via private message.
Alex
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@CanadaEastKTM, what kind of fuel economy are you getting? My 9-spd AT is delivering 30+MPG overall, and deep into the 30s on a long trip. I would expect a manual to do even better.

No-o, its not a fast vehicle, but it's not nearly the slowest vehicle I've ever owned. Do consider, this is a tiny engine w/o a turbo to help it. Its putting out better than 1HP/CID which is pretty darn good.
Well mine reads in kilometers, and don't seem to get better then 12-13 litters per 100km in the city and 11 or so hwy. I try and always shift below or at 3000rpm to keep it mellow. Overall, even just my last tank fuel economy got worse only getting 375km until the fuel light from a full tank premium 91 shell (try and only use minimal ethenol fuels).

It's still early at only 2500km total since new but doubt will get much better. Definitely wouldn't call that fuel efficient but it is what it is and I'm not complaining just would be nice to have a capable engine with that kind of consumption. Hopefully reliability will be this cars strong suit 😜
 

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Sure and you mention that a lot but like, I think we have to take into account that we are often discussing the absolute maximum PEAK advertised horsepower it can make on its BEST day at sea level, and the fact that it has to wind up to ~6400 RPM to reach that peak, and although I can't find a dynograph for this particular engine anywhere I'd wager its a sharp climb the last 2000 RPMs to that peak as thats about the point at which the ECU suddenly realizes you really want "every drop" of power and makes the most of its ability to tweak the lift, duration, and timing to do it.

Engineers and marketing teams know people get easily hung up on peak advertised numbers so they say "Well fine, we can string this poor thing out to make a big number near the redline. Nobody is hardly ever going to use it, and it won't make anywhere close to that power in the normal operating range, but with the fancy tricks of the multiair system we can squeeze out a big number at an ungodly RPM that nobody hardly touches three times in the entire life of owning the car, sure, for the marketing ads."

Just about none of us are going to rev past 4500 in our day-to-day driving, so the real "max" horsepower we are typically ever using for regular driving is nowhere near 180 HP, probably roughly 140 or 145 for normal driving around acceleration (if we're lucky).

This effect is consistent with pretty much all N/A gas engines so a dude driving a 300 HP car also isn't using a full 300 HP every day to go to work and back, but his power at 4500 is probably still 100 HP more than ours at the same RPM so still feels noticeably faster than something like our car.

Not to mention the losses at high altitude, which we certainly noticed on our recent road trip through the rockies and the cascades, we were climbing hills at 3400 probably making a whopping 85 HP ... but thats the deal. You can't use 6000+ RPMs every day on every hill, the little thing will blow up. That's actually what happened to my aunt's 2.4 Cherokee last year, they live in the mountains in Virginia and after not quite two years of mountain torture treatment it gave up the ghost. She was quite merciless with that motor on the switchbacks and hill climbs.
I attached a HP dyno-curve for the 2.4 engine on a dart, blue one is the 2.4 and I think red is 1.4turbo.

As curve show, for HP it is actually a pretty stable raise without any sharp climbs in high RPMs. It hits close to ~95% of the max HP around 4.5k RPM. It is definitely high and not something you would hit everyday (maybe in highway passing etc you can hit it), but not as bad as needing to hit 6k. This multi-air technology FCA uses is something they initially developed for Ferrari engines. Having a stable HP curve is important for sports cars since it prevent uneven acceleration patterns that both kills the driving experience and track times (probably the two most important think for sport cars). Ofcourse engines they developed for those are much larger and rev to much higher RPMS like 8-10k. Ferrari doesn't prefer making turbo engines, so their natural aspirated engine tech is top notch. I am pretty sure if you could modify the 2.4 to rev to 10k RMP, it could also hit ~250 HP. Although it would require a significant engine modification to do it.

For altitude, there is a 3% decrease in engine power for every 1000 feet above see level. So at 3400k feet, it probably makes about 10% less.

https://www.dodge-dart.org/forum/attachments/dodge-dart-1-4l-multiair-turbo/2487d1349839019-i-found-flowmaster-system-while-looking-around-some-sites-tmc9vsstock.jpg
 

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We need a little more info about the clicking. Is it rhythmic with the turning of the tires? Does it happen only when you turn the steering wheel? Is it high pitched metallic or a clunking noise?

Don't fall for the "its normal" routine. Like you I've owned plenty of vehicles with power steering and none made a clicking noise. For that matter I've owned a 2018 Compass and presently own a 2019 Compass and neither makes clicking noises.

A 2018 is new enough you should be under warranty. You are wise to insist on them fixing it.

If the dealer can't fix it, try another Jeep dealer. If a second dealer can't fix it, reach out to JeepCares on this website. Since you're not the only one with this problem (Your dealer said he had another but didn't do anything about it) FCA may make a "star case" out of it and maybe a solution will be found.
The clicking only occurs when turning, or when slowing down on bumps or in a rough parking lot. It mostly occurs when I am turning the wheel either left or right. Being the driver, I can't really distinguish if it's the right or left side, but it's definitely something in the front wheels. It clicks about 3 times then it stops when I straighten out the wheel after a turn. I'd say it sounds metallic.

I read in another forum that some people have had success replacing the wheel hub assemblies. I mentioned this to the dealer on my first visit and they insisted it was a normal sound. It's far from normal. The sound reminds me of if you have something stuck in the spokes of your bicycle wheel. I just bought the car 6 months ago brand new and it just turned over to 7,000 miles last week. Being a 2018, it was on the lot for a year or so, but it still has a full factory warranty. I didn't hear this sound when I bought it. I will also add that the noise can only be heard with the windows down.

I went to the same dealer both times, which is where I bought it from. There's another Jeep dealer nearby, but I didn't care for their sales team when I was there several years ago looking into a different vehicle so naturally I just avoided that location. I will definitely consider going there though if I don't get a resolution on Monday.
 

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Welcome!

A manual SUV is a tough find. I love my manual Compass.

Something sounds wrong with yours. Sales and service are different and even if you had a bad sales experience don't let that put you off for service.

Whatever is wrong is affecting your fuel economy.

I agree that the engine is underpowered for your application (towing a light trailer). Did you look at the Wrangler or Gladiator? Much higher price point but v6 and manual available there. I suspect most people use their Compasses like me, driving to work and running errands around town. I have a car seat for my 3 year old and the power output is more than adequate.

Practically speaking, the Compass and the shorter platform mate the Renegade used existing powertrians.

Going back, it started in 2012 with the Dart. Fiat and Chrysler merged and one of the things the new FCA did to please Obama and get the deal done was to bring out a 40mpg car.

The 1.4 Turbo and the 6 speed manual got quite close at 38 or 39 mpg highway. The aero version came out afterwards got 41 mpg highway.

The 6 speed dual clutch automatics had production issues and early availability of the dart was mostly manuals.

Then came the Dart GT with the the 2.4L 4 cylinder.

The Dart platform was expanded to create the Chrysler 200. The Chrysler 200 had the 2.4 as the base engine and a Chrysler V6 as an optional upgrade. A traditional 4 speed auto was offered with the 2.4 given the issues with the 6 speed dual clutch auto. Unfortunately no manual was offered.

The Cherokee came next and was built on the 200 platform and took the 200's 2.4L engine and the v6. FCA was smart to ditch the 6 speed dual clutch automatic and replace it with a 9 speed traditional automatic. The 200 got the same 9 speed. Sadly no manual option on the Cherokee and likely a mix of demand and the fact the 200 didn't have a manual.

The Renegade came next in 2015 on a Fiat platform. The darts 1.4 with a 6 speed manual was standard. The 2.4 was optional. The 2019 refresh brought in a new 1.3 with no manual option.

The 2nd gen compass came late in the 2017 model year and extended the Renegade. The same 2.4 that was in the dart GT, 200, Cherokee, and Renegade made it into the Compass. The 6 speed manual is available (yeah!) In both fwd and awd platforms. The 6 speed automatic in fwd guise is well reviewed and not the problematic dual clutch. The 9 speed 4x4 auto is also used elsewhere.

The Compass is a parts bin platform car, but a stylish one available with a manual.
 

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Hi all Jeep fans!

At first I am apologise for my English...I am 63 czech old man (European). Now I have a new Jeep Compass for two weeks. It is my first Jeep (sooner Toyota Yaris, Citroen Grand C4 (two models) and also Skoda...40 years ago:).My Jeep is super car for me: full automat (as european driver I drowe more than 35 years only manuals), all types of driving assistents and enough space for my body. I fall in love this Jeep.... It is my new toy really !!!
 

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At first I am apologise for my English...I am 63 czech old man (European). Now I have a new Jeep Compass for two weeks. It is my first Jeep (sooner Toyota Yaris, Citroen Grand C4 (two models) and also Skoda...40 years ago:).My Jeep is super car for me: full automat (as european driver I drowe more than 35 years only manuals), all types of driving assistents and enough space for my body. I fall in love this Jeep.... It is my new toy really !!!
Welcome! Glad you like your Jeep. I hope you have many happy miles. :)
 

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Engineers and marketing teams know people get easily hung up on peak advertised numbers so they say "Well fine, we can string this poor thing out to make a big number near the redline. Nobody is hardly ever going to use it, and it won't make anywhere close to that power in the normal operating range, but with the fancy tricks of the multiair system we can squeeze out a big number at an ungodly RPM that nobody hardly touches three times in the entire life of owning the car, sure, for the marketing ads."
And they give us speedometers that go to double the legal limit in most places. Does anyone ever drive their Jeep at 140MPH? Only drunks the night before they make newspaper headlines. :(
 

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And they give us speedometers that go to double the legal limit in most places. Does anyone ever drive their Jeep at 140MPH? Only drunks the night before they make newspaper headlines. :(
You can drive at that speed in Germany, or if you take the car to race track. :)
 
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