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For the past year and a half our headrest has literally been a pain in the neck. The crash test dummy IIHS modeled these after must have poor back posture.:dunno: Before taking on this project, my main concern was the safety aspect. I did a bunch of research and was able to find the IIHS guidelines and other articles on “how to properly adjust head restraint”, stating the distance from the head to the rest anything up to 2 ¾”” is optimal and anything past 4” is considered marginal. I used these measurements as a baseline for how much I could bend the rods. I made a simple wooden box out of 2x4’s and plywood and screwed it to my workbench. I also removed the cloth cover not to damage it. After a few cautious bends, I was able to get what I felt was within 2”. Our head still makes contact, so I'm happy with the results. Now we can drive with our seats more upright (as intended) instead of reclining it so far back, which to me compromises drivability.

https://www.iihs.org/media/dc027e6e-1e00-40e0-bfe9-df732360602e/ydLKGA/Ratings/Protocols/current/head_restraint_protocol_static.pdf
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/12/how-to-save-your-neck-in-a-rear-end-crash/index.htm
https://www.cars.com/articles/how-to-properly-adjust-your-head-restraint-1420663027148/
 

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Do the seats in the other trims not have adjustable headrests? Ours just ratchet forward and backward, no bending required to get either of the angles you showed...

Free fixes are good, I wonder how much it would have cost to buy the adjustable headrests.
 

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ours is a sport model with cloth seats. in the very first picture, the headrest is ratcheted as far back as it can go. I actually purchased a used leather one from a Latitude thinking it would be different, but it wasn't.
 

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I wonder if this affects the integrity of the head rest, if you're involved in a collision?
I'm not sure insurance would cover a personal injury claim if it was determined that the head rest was "modified"?

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Yes, valid statement, that was definitely a concern and another reason I purchased a spare one to experiment with. Not knowing what metal is used, I did my best not to overstress it and bend as little as possible. I have some experience with bending electrical conduits, small pipe tubing, construction rods, etc. and how the metal reacts to bending. These rods don’t bend easily, hence the two white extension pipes I used. I took my time and went slowly not to generate heat, weather that made a difference, I don’t know, but at least I took it into account. I didn’t notice any stress fractures or chipped coating at the bending points. I did notice they “spring back” which made it tricky to get symmetry. The black foam mold/casing didn’t show any signs of damage either. In my case with such a short distance bend, I don’t think it compromised the metal that much. We also set the headrest as low as possible to keep the leverage point at a minimum, but still within the adjustment guidelines. I would like to think my precautions minimized any negative effects and kept the integrity within the original safety margin of design.
 

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I wonder if this affects the integrity of the head rest, if you're involved in a collision?
I'm not sure insurance would cover a personal injury claim if it was determined that the head rest was "modified"?

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Also, after a severe collision, headrests are designed to tilt forward with the the impact (similar to how they do if you pull them forwards) to hold the neck and prevent a whiplash injury (imagine both the head and headrest moving forward at the same time). Changing the angle of the headrest can cause the head and the headrest to meet at a strange angle (like headrest being too "perpendicular" to the head) and cause more damage to the neck.

You can see it at the ~1:15 mark of this crash test video.

 

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Looks like they may have changed the design on the 2019 Compass Sport models. Ours is adjustable over a wide range. All the way back is still about 2 inches from my head and totally forward is in the way.

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I wonder if the real issue was more lack of adjustment in the seat, I cannot believe how many directions you can adjust the electric power seat plus the bolster/lumbar, it takes some fiddling and I really wish it had a couple preset memory options, but my wife and I think they are very comfortable especially for long trips. Then again the passenger seat is not power-adjust and we like that seat just fine so I don't know.


 

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I wonder if the real issue was more lack of adjustment in the seat, I cannot believe how many directions you can adjust the electric power seat plus the bolster/lumbar, it takes some fiddling and I really wish it had a couple preset memory options, but my wife and I think they are very comfortable especially for long trips. Then again the passenger seat is not power-adjust and we like that seat just fine so I don't know.


They have memory settings for EU models (plus passenger seat is also power adjusted). I wonder why they didnt put at least the memory to the US model, I cant imagine it costs more than $10 to put a switch.
 

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They have memory settings for EU models (plus passenger seat is also power adjusted). I wonder why they didnt put at least the memory to the US model, I cant imagine it costs more than $10 to put a switch.
I'd be guessing its another one of the things on the list that were held back solely to keep the north american Compass from wiping the floor with the Cherokee.

If they would have given the Compass full access to the options that are available to the Cherokee (Memory seat/cooled seats/passenger power seat/etc plus all the other Cherokee-and-higher-only-goodies) the north american Cherokee sales numbers would have plummeted like a rock in a lake.
 
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